Why was the 12M overlooked with this patch?

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Takes months for anything to be updated in this game, kinda sad nothing was done about the 12M situation in Redacted

The change to 880M shows Dice was aware of issues with the shotguns in that map, but in a way the nerf just shifted people to a more "broken" shotgun, the 880M might have been more viable for most situations but the 12M is pure evil.

I get a shotgun should OHK sometimes but only <5m. The 12M I have seen this thing completely destroy people even up to 30m...... makes zero sense. Dice even nerfed the G428 to take one extra bullet >30m so how come a shotgun can be effective up to 30m when a DMR was deemed OP above 30m....

Just look at the NVK, should be able to dish out the same damage but it's insane reload speed makes it balanced, you can pick it to clear a corridor but after that it instantly loses it's effectiveness, being able to main a shotgun shows poor weapon balance

12M is clearly overtuned for it's purpose, hope the next patch in 3 months fixes things?

xvulture · Answer

@doubleome No offense but this is just personal preference. I think it's fine the way it is. As stated in the other thread you made, outside of Redacted, it's useless.
You're going to have to learn to deal with it and/or learn to counter it if you get the chance.

anobix · Answer

@doubleome&nbsp;wrote:After the M880 nerf people just flooded towards the 12M auto and now after the M880 nerf dust settled people just picking it right back up, might be cuz of the VHX nerf and they can't just hold down the button anymore.There are too many servers that are just 12M and 880M spamming the kill log (and VHX still for the record), it's not fun trying to break through anywhere just to see a Paik wallhack through smoke and pop you with the 880M or the countless 12M spam.There have been many maps in previous Battlefield titles that are more CQC than Redacted yet this map is flooded with them because they are simply overtuned. So none of the "it's CQC so shotguns are strong ofc BS"Everytime a player is on my screen for 1 frame and I instantly die I lose part of my soul, it's getting old very quicklyIt is time to move on to other maps, or join the online sensation that is using a shotgun on the only map it is strong.&nbsp;At this point, I think you've made 10 threads complaining about shotguns on redacted.&nbsp;

elliotlh · Answer

Thread merged with an existing one.

sk1lld · Answer

@doubleome"When in Rome" With all honesty with the netcode like it is you might be better off with a shottie. If enough adopt them DICE will have no choice but to fix them!

doubleome · Answer

After the M880 nerf people just flooded towards the 12M auto and now after the M880 nerf dust settled people just picking it right back up, might be cuz of the VHX nerf and they can't just hold down the button anymore.

There are too many servers that are just 12M and 880M spamming the kill log (and VHX still for the record), it's not fun trying to break through anywhere just to see a Paik wallhack through smoke and pop you with the 880M or the countless 12M spam.

There have been many maps in previous Battlefield titles that are more CQC than Redacted yet this map is flooded with them because they are simply overtuned. So none of the "it's CQC so shotguns are strong ofc BS"

Everytime a player is on my screen for 1 frame and I instantly die I lose part of my soul, it's getting old very quickly

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