Will EA/DICE Learn From This Failure?

As long as there are managers and investors who decide if a trend goes into a game or not we will never see improvements. I can imagine how frustrating it is for developers to bring stuff in their game they know fans and players wont like. I bet if its in the hands of devs they would deliver on all fronts. And release their game after it works not to patch it for almost a year.

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@Anobix wrote:


I can understand not wanting to just release the same things over and over and want to bring in new people and the difficulty of not alienating existing fans while appealing to others. But this was such a LEAP in the wrong direction that I find it hard to believe, honestly.

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I feel quite strongly that Dice actually decided to alienate their existing fans with 2042.

It's hard to think otherwise when so many core features are missing from the game, and the entire game mechanism is set up to actively prevent groups larger than four playing together.

With BFV they started to go in this direction, and were roundly criticized for it, with 2042 they've doubled down on those unpopular decisions.

2042 is built purely for drop in and drop out players. It's built to drive away anyone who doesn't want to play like that.

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@Psubond wrote:
@TAW_Rinkokeep in mind there is also a contingent of people who have gotten into the game industry that absolutely hate old school gamers and want to burn down everything old school gamers enjoy and remake it in a away that will * everyone off

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And those people remind me of the person happily sawing away the branch of the tree they're sitting on.

What PartWelsh sneeringly called legacy players are the backbone of this game. They're the people keeping servers alive so that drop in/out players have servers to play on.

They're the people who create a community around these games, the people who happily contribute battlefield moments to various social media, the people who have made the battlefield series what it is...or was.

By choosing to drive these people away, Dice have seriously crippled their own game, and you have to wonder who will be buying anything else from Dice after this.

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@Psubond wrote:
@TAW_Rinkoif the people i'm referring to in the industry have gotten hold of battlefield, they don't care. they would rather burn it to the ground then let us have what we want

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All I can hope then is that the money people have a word.

Driving paying customers away might not be something EA consider a good thing.

While sometimes change is good, it drastically failed with 2042, just goes to show the grass isn't always greener. They went way too far with 2042 and it flopped spectacularly. Just goes to show that BF does not need to change the core features of what makes it Battlefield.

If EA/Dice or whoever doesnt learn from the pooshow that is 2042, then it truly is done for. To be honest, with the direction its taking I think it already is.

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@-DFA-Thump wrote:

If they truly are taking "lessons learned" from BF2042's failure, they might want to start here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgHTehCBLMg

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No, they wont. EA like all other corporate entities has boardrooms full of denthead product designers and developers who think they know better than the community and will do anything to create new ideas to wow their superiors and base things off trends that are hot in other mass marketed games of the time.

Rather than realizing battlefield has a huge following of players who like the older games and would like the same game play with new maps, gadgets vehicles and stuff like that to add some spice along with new graphics but not in a way that makes it a huge departure from what it was.

If I could get a legit hardcore BFBC2/ BF3 /BF4 with updated graphics i would play it non stop, and they have the potential to do so with this platform but instead we have the aforementioned problem still clearly even with the new team working on things.