Yall really didnt like BFV?
This is the biggest surprise I have gotten comming to these forums. Out side of crashes my only gripe with BFV at launch was the ammo/health crates not showing on the maps when they got dropped.
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BF5 was not a very good game. Especially not a the beginning. But it had at least the essential core features (the ones they call 'legacy' now). So yes, BF5 had a rough start, but it was still Battlefield and except of the TTK debacle the core features were always where they supposed to be.
It also has some problem with map design. Just one example: Fjell 652. A very good infantry map -- completely ruined by the addition of planes. Without planes, this is really fun and I think that most players (all except of the pilots) will agree that the person that made the decision to add 5? planes PER SIDE! to this infantry map should -- if not fired right away -- be at least NOT allowed to EVER be involved with those kind of tasks ever again.
But compared to BF2042, BF5 it is so much better that we now play BF5 again while waiting for the current installment to get the required fixes to make it enjoyable. Arras, Marita, Mercury (sometimes also ruined by planes, but not as much as Fjell), Devastation, Solomon Islands, ... ALL much more beautiful maps and all with better flow and in general better map design.
AND (for us maybe even the most important part): we can play together on the same server (takes some minutes to join, but then we can stay until the first cheater joins and ruins our fun). In BF2042 we have to split in 2 (or even 3, if we are more than 8 people) groups. This needs to be addressed with highest prio if you ask me (which you don't). But this is something for another thread.
@DuaneDibbley wrote:BF5 was not a very good game. Especially not a the beginning. But it had at least the essential core features (the ones they call 'legacy' now). So yes, BF5 had a rough start, but it was still Battlefield and except of the TTK debacle the core features were always where they supposed to be.
It also has some problem with map design. Just one example: Fjell 652. A very good infantry map -- completely ruined by the addition of planes. Without planes, this is really fun and I think that most players (all except of the pilots) will agree that the person that made the decision to add 5? planes PER SIDE! to this infantry map should -- if not fired right away -- be at least NOT allowed to EVER be involved with those kind of tasks ever again.
But compared to BF2042, BF5 it is so much better that we now play BF5 again while waiting for the current installment to get the required fixes to make it enjoyable. Arras, Marita, Mercury (sometimes also ruined by planes, but not as much as Fjell), Devastation, Solomon Islands, ... ALL much more beautiful maps and all with better flow and in general better map design.
AND (for us maybe even the most important part): we can play together on the same server (takes some minutes to join, but then we can stay until the first cheater joins and ruins our fun). In BF2042 we have to split in 2 (or even 3, if we are more than 8 people) groups. This needs to be addressed with highest prio if you ask me (which you don't). But this is something for another thread.
Oh no the dreaded Fjell map I remember it well, and you are quite right it was ruined by the addition of planes.
If I recall correctly the forums then were full of players asking for the planes to be removed as the infantry farming on Fjell was quite diabolical. As you say it had some beautiful maps too.
Most importantly it had all the core features expected to be in a BF game.
BFV has a few cardinal sins.
1) It is an incomplete abandoned game
2) It is full of cheaters
3) It does not support permanent community servers (which is also a problem in 2042)
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:BFV has a few cardinal sins.
1) It is an incomplete abandoned game
2) It is full of cheaters
3) It does not support permanent community servers (which is also a problem in 2042)
1) Correct today, but it was supported for longer than BF2042 ever will be.
2) Yes, as well as BF2042 and almost all other multiplayer titles. We now know, that there are currently less cheaters in BF2042, but at least one cheat vendor discontinued the offer because of BF2042 being to broken. And until we get scoreboard and the kill log is fixed to show all kills in the server as well), we cannot see the current cheaters that clearly with 122:2 as infantry players-
3) Sadly yes, and I personally doubt that this feature will come for BF2042. Let's wait and see.
@DuaneDibbley wrote:
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:BFV has a few cardinal sins.
1) It is an incomplete abandoned game
2) It is full of cheaters
3) It does not support permanent community servers (which is also a problem in 2042)
1) Correct today, but it was supported for longer than BF2042 ever will be.
2) Yes, as well as BF2042 and almost all other multiplayer titles. We now know, that there are currently less cheaters in BF2042, but at least one cheat vendor discontinued the offer because of BF2042 being to broken. And until we get scoreboard and the kill log is fixed to show all kills in the server as well), we cannot see the current cheaters that clearly with 122:2 as infantry players-
3) Sadly yes, and I personally doubt that this feature will come for BF2042. Let's wait and see.I want to hope that they are desperate enough with 2042, that they will treat it better than BFV.
For all who remember, BFV underwent asinine TTK changes several times on its life cycle. That was worse than anything they did with 2042 so far.
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:BFV has a few cardinal sins.
1) It is an incomplete abandoned game
2) It is full of cheaters
3) It does not support permanent community servers (which is also a problem in 2042)
I would like to one more sin to the list now that I think about it:
4) Health attrition and vehicle ammo attrition was one of the worst things they decided to re introduce in BFV.
- @UP_Hawxxeye
4) Health attrition and vehicle ammo attrition was one of the worst things they decided to re introduce in BFV.
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I think it has always been a good idea when planes and choppers had to go back to base to rearm.
