You can't balance helis without playing them
It's okay to complain that helis are annoying but you can't tell how helis should be nerfed if you don't play them. Attack helis (Apache, Hokum, stealth helis and Nightbird) have become less aggress...
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@MZR_926 totally agree, the people asking for more nerfs when it's already been nerfed nearly every patch, don't seem to understand that or let alone never fly themselves, also the crazy amount of Lis players lately is insane, just spam of nonstop rockets 2-4 at a time, takes a lot of skill to avoid let alone survive, if they had it their way it would die just shooting at it with an LMG and never be used.
I fly a lot but when I don't get it, I just use Lis if I want to kill the heli, people act as if it's near impossible to kill the heli, stealth and little bird at 1 shot kill with Lis, most of the players I see with Condor or Hind just fly it in the enemy base and die with 30 seconds of getting it, or they fly it to a base and jump out.
God like heli players are rare but seem to be the only focus of everyone having problems with the heli
I fly a lot but when I don't get it, I just use Lis if I want to kill the heli, people act as if it's near impossible to kill the heli, stealth and little bird at 1 shot kill with Lis, most of the players I see with Condor or Hind just fly it in the enemy base and die with 30 seconds of getting it, or they fly it to a base and jump out.
God like heli players are rare but seem to be the only focus of everyone having problems with the heli
- @L3tH4l3rR0r I think one thing non-pilots need to understand is the difference between being in a vehicle that your team has 1 available for 32 or 64 people and being an infantry player.
You may be one of 10 people who wanted to use that vehicle.
You may not be able to use it again that match if you die.
You will have to wait almost 2 minutes to get it again if you die.
Learning how to be effective with the attack helicopters while staying alive is very difficult.
Now as an infantry player if you die, you join back in the game with your same loadout in 5 seconds. No problem. A heli pilot that dies without warning to a railgun tank that's sitting 800m away in the enemy spawn has to play a different way, or wait almost 2 minutes for the chance to play helicopter again.
Taking out the sole attack aircraft that a team gets should be difficult and it should be rewarding for the enemy team.
Right now it's rewarding, but it's not difficult. Theres so many "cheap deaths" that can come and give an undeserved advantage to a team by destroying the enemy helicopter.
@SpudBug wrote:
@L3tH4l3rR0rI think one thing non-pilots need to understand is the difference between being in a vehicle that your team has 1 available for 32 or 64 people and being an infantry player.
You may be one of 10 people who wanted to use that vehicle.
You may not be able to use it again that match if you die.
You will have to wait almost 2 minutes to get it again if you die.
Learning how to be effective with the attack helicopters while staying alive is very difficult.
Now as an infantry player if you die, you join back in the game with your same loadout in 5 seconds. No problem. A heli pilot that dies without warning to a railgun tank that's sitting 800m away in the enemy spawn has to play a different way, or wait almost 2 minutes for the chance to play helicopter again.
Taking out the sole attack aircraft that a team gets should be difficult and it should be rewarding for the enemy team.
Right now it's rewarding, but it's not difficult. Theres so many "cheap deaths" that can come and give an undeserved advantage to a team by destroying the enemy helicopter.how is this for a tradeoff: make helos basically ineffective in terms of splash damage against infantry and increase the number of vehicles (including air) and the vehicles can go aftre each other. that way infantry isn't getting pounded constantly by air while they are trying to fight off infantry and ground vehicles.
can also reduce effectiveness of infantry against air as well since they won't be much of a threat to the infantry if the air has to actually hit a soldier with a rocket to kill him (like with Lis's missile)
@Psubondin that case why have any air power at all? why have tanks? remove everything, even guns, we just run around with fists entire game. If you have problems with air power you have the tools to deal with it, most players don't want to, they want to play whatever and just expect others to take the heli down.
Changing the entire game just to suit other players is unrealistic, better to have good maps with balance, Air power is apart of battlefield, if you do not like it you have other modes, other games as well. I love airpower can it be good at times yes, but it can also be very bad having 4 lis rockets spammed at you, but you can go against a crazy good player with LMG then what? nerf that into the ground too ?
