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Rabhimself1986
4 years ago

Re: Aim assist

People have different opinions on it clearly, but I think the majority believe the M&K definitely offers a significant advantage.

If you look at Rainbow Six Siege, for example, there is zero aim assist on that game for consoles by design.  The developers actually consider it cheating if you use M&K on console because the advantage is recognised to be so strong.

It isn't even just aiming where the advantage lies, it's general movement and other interactions.

If any controller user is comfortable facing off M&K users then that is on them, power to them.  However, if the default set-up on a system is for a controller, I personally don't agree with just allowing M&K implementation.  As I suggest, if this is to happen on consoles then the M&K input should remove the option to disable cross-play.  They should be forced to play with PC users (and console players comfortable with cross-play).

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  • xXHappy_PuppyXx's avatar
    xXHappy_PuppyXx
    Rising Ace
    4 years ago
    @Rabhimself1986 Simple solution is if the game detects a m&k you are only allowed into servers with m&k. If the game detected you swapping them out mid game gives you 10 sec. To reverse it or be removed.

    The fact that effectively series x/s users are forced to play against pc players is biggest issue.

    If on xbox only servers where everyone is on a controller with no aim assit that's fair. Right now the way to disable cross play is buried in the xbox ui. You have to go through 5 to screens to get to it and it's not very intuitive.

    When I do turn off cross play there are no servers. You can sit in wait for more players over a half hour and it wont ever start. So forcing us to play against PC players. As the obviously most people dont know where in the ui the cross play is disabled.

    M&K is such and advantage especially at longer range and short range fights and when using weapon turrets.

    I played pc for years was ctf nova logic world champion team captain for delta force back in the day. I'm very well versed in m&k play. The reason I switched to console was the hacking scene on PC.

    PS, for xbox users to turn off cross play you have to go through Settings/Account/Privacy/Xbox Privacy/View details & customize//Communication & multiplayer/ then switch "you can join cross-network play" from allow to block. Just a heads up this will block all cross play functions on the console. Also servers are few and far between you may have extreme wait times trying to find a match with cross play blocked.
  • lionking7001's avatar
    lionking7001
    4 years ago
    @Rabhimself1986 Well said! It would be really fun to play against M&K and feel that you have a chance to compete! I also agree that in vehicle the need of assist is less important.
  • Rabhimself1986's avatar
    Rabhimself1986
    4 years ago

    @xXHappy_PuppyXxI don't disagree with anything you have said. I believe other shooters implement this 'detect and switch' system.

    There's a lot of threads actually on this topic and I just wished to state the facts surrounding M&K advantage. I think a lot of console users just want M&K support full-stop, but don't consider it an advantage against the controller users. This is all I was trying to warn against - any opinion that M&K is not superior to a controller places that individual firmly in the (overwhelmingly small) minority, not only with respect to other players, but also game developers. I have zero issue with console players wanting M&K support - provided if they use it then they have to play with PC players.

    EDIT:  I actually have the game on PC and PS5 (I know, what a mug), and I know that I'm much more effective on PC.  On PS5 I opt out of cross-play for the M&K reasons, as well as avoiding hackers which is a benefit of console play.

  • xXHappy_PuppyXx's avatar
    xXHappy_PuppyXx
    Rising Ace
    4 years ago
    @Rabhimself1986 At least on a PS5 you can effectively op out if cross play.. us series x/s users get screwed over, turn it off no servers to play on, turn it get farmed by pc players. Its utter bs from ea/dice
  • goosesuecs's avatar
    goosesuecs
    4 years ago

    There’s a video on YouTube with a guy using Cronus max on his xbox with aim assist turned up in game to 100 and he’s somewhat maxed out on Cronus aim assist and it’s barely a difference. It’s noticeable but the screen shake makes it unplayable. 
    there def needs to be a fix. Tired of getting lasered across map when I’m still trying to pin point my target.

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