@the4040man by watching 20+ useless tutorials i already know how it works, but anyway, thank you
CPU doesn't appear to be bottlenecking because none of the cores are hitting 100% from the screenshot. I'm talking individual core usage not overall usage of all the cores. It only takes one CPU core hitting 100% to cause a CPU bottleneck. But none of his cores are doing that.
Sorry OP, I have no idea what's going on with your system. It should be getting a higher frame rate, but for some reason it's not. I suspect a software problem or misconfigured setting somewhere. It might be easier try a clean install of Windows than to go through everything.
@OskooI_007Do any of you actually understand the concept between CPU and GPU usage, they are two completely different things. Am I not explaining it well or what?
You could actually see in this video (for reference) that this person is running BF1 at ~50% CPUusage and he literally says it out that the CPU is bottlenecking:
https://youtu.be/J1bjpJv0Elg?t=54
He uses a different rig, but I'm just showing this as a reference.
CPU usage graphs are not like GPU usage graphs, where is this misconception coming from? These "usages" depict usage stats for two completely different things, because CPU and GPU work on different principles. GPU (Usage = utilization), CPU (Usage = stress). This is why the person in the video managed to tell that there's a bottleneck, because he was looking at the GPU usage graph (~80%) and not at the CPU one, because the CPU usage just shows how stressed the CPU is. And the further he cranked up the graphical settings (towards Ultra) the higher the GPU usage went up, because the CPU could match that framerate difference
P.S. - You could only tell a CPU bottleneck from the GPU usage graph, but you can't never tell a CPU bottleneck from the CPU usage one, unless you hit 100% CPU usage (stress) because by default it's an indicator that the system is struggling, and you'll probably get constant fps spikes, so the ceiling framerate would be the least of concerns in this case, because the system would be struggling with constant freezes and spikes.
@the4040man Here's a video showing a Ryzen R5 2600 getting well over 100 frames per second and hitting 100% CPU utilization on individual cores. Skip to time stamp 10:30 for low graphics settings.
@OskooI_007The median is still 50 to 60% of overallCPU usage, the fact that individual cores hit 90% (and barely any 100%) randomly for a fraction of a second doesn't really mean anything, every CPU does that in BF1, the average is still 50-60%. Individual cores randomly hitting ceiling doesn't mean that the actual CPU is bottlenecking, because each core's usage is sporadic.
You could see a similar case with the i7 8700k (same with the video he linked) each core's usage acting sporadically hitting usage ceiling as well, but you could see the framerate is much higher, just because it's just a better processor compared to the r5 2600x and that's what I was trying to explain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ei7VgnO6g
@the4040man Individual CPU core usage is what matters, not overall CPU usage.
@the4040man it is extremely weird that i have this probly ONLY in bf1. None of other games have the same problem. R5 2600x was even recommended for my gpu so i dont know what's wrong with bf1. Also, i reinstalled windows couple of days ago so it couldnt be a problem
@the4040man CPU preparing frames, which my gpu cant show for unknown reason. On test the guy has no such problem
So all i i have to do is to sell kidney to buy r9 5950x to have at least 150fps in 5 years old game?
@the4040man i watched the tests of 3080 with ryzen 7 5800x and it had 70-80% of gpu usage and only +20 fps instead of normal usage of 1080 wtf
@the4040man i have ultra graphics preset and uncapped fps through user.cfg
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@OskooI_007Okay then, explain how both CPUs are getting their individual cores hitting their usage ceiling similarly in both videos when the 8700k is getting better frames? lol
@the4040man The i7 8700k is getting higher frames because it's running at a higher Ghz and has a higher IPC than the Ryzen CPU.
Or to put it another way.
100% at 5Ghz on Intel CPU is going to give a higher frame rate than 100% at 4Ghz on the Ryzen CPU.
@OskooI_007Well, exactly - touche. It means that the usage doesn't matter, you just debunked yourself lol
The usage doesn't matter for the overall productivity of the CPU (like I've pointed out earlier), it shows how stressed the CPU is, hence it's not an indicator for a bottleneck
@the4040man never had such a pain with any of games i have lmao.
@Comed1anHmm, can you send me your document and your cfg files, I'm just curious how you've set your things?
@the4040man i will send it tomorrow, cuz my pc js turned off and it is 0:34 am
