Heavy stuttering/freezing after July 8th Patch

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EEk thats crazy, You are not even on a AMD card so its not mantel issues.

You know what do this just to rule it out. if you get errors once they are fixed then repair game again then test BF4

Test your windows for errors
This works in all windows O/S vista Win7, Win8 and Win8.1 windows system file checker :] Copy and past this to note pad and put it on your desktop. As open programs can give you errors when you run this.

...... sfc /scannow ..... ever hear of it if not your going to love this .... it will inspect all the important windows files as well as the windows DLL files. If windows system file checker finds any issues with the windows files and windows DLL files it will replace them. This little tool as well as the event viewer saved me and fully helped me fix my BF4 issues as well as saved my .... many a format since I found it. This is the best toy they ever put in windows :]

For win7 go to start left click in search type cmd and right click cmd pick run as admin

For win 8.1 right click start bottom left of screen and pick command prompt admin

1 - Open administrator command prompt and close web pages and programs like origin.

2 - Type or copy and paste in sfc /scannow and hit enter, This takes 5 min to 15 min SSD vs HD

3 - This can go one of a few ways ..... no errors ... it fixed some errors ..... could not fix all errors...... does not finish checking and errors out ....... and the last one could not fix errors at all :/

4 -After its done reboot and do it again even if you had no errors the first time or had errors, could not fix ... run sfc /scannow again and when its done a second time reboot. You need to do this a and get no errors 2 x in a row ...

5- So if you ran it 2x and no errors your safe you can stop now for now lol, If you had errors first time but not the second then run sfc /scannow again and when its done reboot. You need to get could not find any errors 2 x to be safe. If it still finds errors try and run it a few more times until it finds no errors 2x AND ALWAYS REBOOT BETWEEN RUNNING sfc /scannow

6 - If you get a message indicating that it can not be repaired and you ran sfc /scannow more then 3x in a row on win vista or 7 mm you need a format or try repair win 7 :/ But after format or repair and all updates are done run sfc /scannow to make sure your windows is stable same deal 2x error free reboot between them.

If your O/S is Win8 or Win 8,1 then you can run this next command / line in administrator command prompt. Sadly this does not work for win vista or 7 :/ It will restore the health of your PC and you dont lose anything and it will also fix errors in the registry :]

dism.exe /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth ------- ONLY works for windows 8 and 8.1

7 - When its done reboot

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

I ran SFC and no errors were found.

Also I used Display Driver Uninstaller and removed all traces of Nvidia before performing a clean install of 340.43. Afterwards, I resized my desktop and set the refresh rate to 60htz (from 54htz). I started the game and, after a promising start, heavy lag started after 25 minutes or so.

Ok good windows is not the issue so it is now off the table :womanhappy:

Lets work on the video card settings next to either fix or rule it out ...

Nvidia control panel go to Adjust image settings w/ preview check off last one use my preference and set it to Performance if not already.

Next go to manage 3D settings program settings tab add BF4 if not already added.

make sure all this is done #2 specify the settings for this program...going to give you my settings to see if it helps lol as I am a FPS freak lol..

Ambient occlusion - not supported

Anisotropic filtering - Off

Antialiasing -FXAA - not supported

Antialiasing   - Gamma Correction- ON

Antialiasing- Mode -  OFF

Antialiasing - Setting -none

Antialiasing -Transparency - OFF

CUDA-GPU -ALL

Maximum Pre-rendered frams - use global settings {3D app..}

Multi Display / Mixed GPU acceleration - set what you have as I game on 3 monitors mine is multiple display

Power management mode - Prefer maximum performance

Shader Cache - ON

Texture filtering area next 4 down first- ON, second - global allow, 3rd - high performance,  4th  - ON

Threaded Optimization - Auto

Triple Buffering- OFF

Vertical sync - OFF

Under Display change resolution in NCP make sure its set to 60 Hz

Test BF4 again after doing settings see if this helps at all. What do you use to show FPS in game? 

Sadly Lag can come from many areas :/ we are just trying to rule it out from the video card and get you good FPS in game. Is your Internet plunged in to a switch/hub  then your computer or is it from provider box straight into your computer? Try from your net providers web page to run a ping test/ speed test as we did have issues at one time in this house it turned out to be a bad cable box from our net provider. 

Also try repair game again as it can take a few tries to fix issues.

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

On PC with AMD I found that the latest installers drop RAPTR or something like that. It is a recording game overlay much like what Origin does. It creates significant lag on the game. I removed that and the game was back to "normal". I do persive a degradation in FPS compared to what it was before but it is working better. This issue was introduced with the latest patch.

Even Fraps makes issues in BF4 now so I made a cfg to see FPS lol. 

To see FPS in game with out fraps etc:
1- open note pad
2-put this in the note pad..... perfoverlay.drawfps 1
3-when you make the user.cfg in notepad,change the file type from text to all. And name it user.cfg
4-Put in .....:\Program Files(x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield 4
5-Also close Origin to put cfg in just to be safe :}
6-You will see your FPS in top right of screen when you start BF4

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

I set the Nvidia settings as you said but, one game crashed and the other had the usual lag.

I usually use the console (~) and type Perfoverlay.drawfps 1 and/or Perfoverlay.drawgraph 1 to study what is going on. When I first enter a map I clock in at 80fps. During normal gameplay 50-70fps with some dips into 40s. When the lag starts the FPS counter is unreliable as it will never say 0 because it is unable to update itself while totally frozen. Freezes can be from .5-4 seconds.

Another thing I'll add that didn't happen before the July 8th patch is that if I die while frozen, when I unfreeze, I can still control my character while vewiing the killcard until eventually the death animation starts. Also sound loops have disappeared. Sounds good but I'll trade a sound loop for a freeze any day.

I'm going to try to "repair" the game and reinstall immediately but, I'm doubful.

I suspect the problem lies in a registry error. SFC and other utilities only find "errors" but, not values that could just be different if altered with regedit. I would love to compare registry values of a working machine similar to mine (Win 7, Two hard drives, OS on one, Users and Program Files on the other, Nvidia Gen 5 or 6, maybe even a Motioninjoy user) but, I don't know how.

I saw your post about a complete tear down and rebuild (BF4, Origin, Punkbuster). That could solve it but, it may not change the registry if that were the real error. It would be real sad to waste all that time only to hit another dead end.

Hi gkibarricade what makes you think its a error in the registry? The fact your BF4 issues got worse after repair game kind of makes me agree with you on this tho we need to rule it out :/  If it is some type of registry issue the error will show in event viewer :] Dont try to fix the game until we rule out windows registry something is not correct  we need to nail it down / find it fix it then deal with the game part.   

To find event viewer ... Control Panel / Administrative Tools click on event viewer then go to event viewer local at the top, this will show you your windows errors. Then right click the error and pick view all ....

From that google event id and source with o/s.

 http://www.eventid.net/display-eventid-1-source-Google%20Update-eventno-11179-phase-1.htm

You could try to roll back windows as will if you have it set up on your computer or repair win 7 

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

In a way your computer is acting like mine did when I had issues in windows but did not know it then as my PC only acted up in BF4 :/  

You can also try this first I never used it as I just got mad and did formats lol.

CHKDSK utility will try and recover or fix any data or installation errors. This can take a few hrs. SSD vs HD

http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-do-i-run-chkdsk/

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

Event Viewer pointed to possible causes:

Currupted User Account - I couldn't Create a new user account and pass everything over because I don't have enough space for double the space of my User file. I may still try to install BF4 only on the new user to see if that is it. This is very suspicous because I have had User Account problems in the past.

Ran Directx setup from Battlefield 4/_Installer/directx/redist

IE11 hang - This is no big deal because it is usually a poor webpage that causes hangs. If anything I will play without IE to see a difference.

Network Hiccups - I have ChoiceCable internet and usually they are pretty stable but the internet will drop out about 5 times a year. Just last month, I changed my box. Looking to go back to a non-wireless router to eliminate parasitic connection and test that.

Recently installed printer - I uninstalled my non-existant EPSON printer

Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) - I don't know whether this is benign or not. More study

Google Talk plugin - It does not want to update/uninstall so I hit it with http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall and the Fixit was able to find it and fix it.

Group Policy editor - Enabled "Allow local activation security check exemptions

Here are my Event Viewer Errors:
Event ID Source
10 WMI
513 CAPI2
1000 Application Error
1002 Application Hang
2505 Server
4321 NetBT
7030 Service Control Manager
8193 VSS
11714 MsiInstaller
36888 Schannel

I'm going to continue to monitor this and do my homework but, if you see anything that you recognize, please post.

I use google chrome 32bit never had issues with it

Check out this set of pages not sure they will fully help but maybe..

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/182280-wmi-event-id-10-root-cimv2.html

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/14abbc90-cab5-4fc6-953a-96c1929f9a7b/eventid-513-capi2-error?forum=itprovistasp

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc756339(v=ws.10).aspx

http://www.sevenforums.com/backup-restore/151725-vss-error-event.html

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

I found something very promising:

While troubleshooting Event id 513 CAPI2, I found a spat of VSS  FileMaps located at c:\windows\winsxs\Filemaps that were causing the error. Upon closer inspection the files could be grouped into dates modified: 7/8/2014, 6/8/2014, 1/11/2014 and 10/24/2013. 28 files only in these 4 dates. The files themselves seem to be sort of random: framwork v3.0 and v3.5, Windows Journal, DVD Maker, IE, Microsoft Games etc. I wouldn't be suprised if these dates lined up to BF4 updates. I quarenteened the files and am hoping for the best.

Fingers crossed its kind of like hunting for a needle in hay :/ On my PC it took a few days to fix it all. Even after I got it all fixed I still had to do a fully clean install of BF4 to get it all stable. I am hoping you dont need to go this far but if you do I have steps for it.

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

I addressed every error that occurs while on the game. Including:

513 CAPI2

8193 VSS

36888 Schannel

Yet the game still lags.

I also read a post about cpu throttling if the temps are too high. This made a lot of sense to me considering the heat and the fact that when the game starts everything is OK. I installed RealTemp and my CPU idles at 45 C and goes to 85 C max in battlefield. While these temps are high, everything I read says it has to hit the 90s or higher for Intel i5 for throttling to happen. Regardless, I'm going to clean the PC to improve the temps; maybe even redo the thermal paste on the CPU.

Still suspicious is the modem that allows wireless. I'm going to trade down with my ISP to an older one without wireless.

I am moving to a complete teardown following Zorlacc's post about it. If all this fails I will be truly lost. I'm working on recording my gameplay so we can all see what I'm talking about. Truly, gamebreaking freezing.

Ya my post on it is for when everything has failed. :/ Its not hard just mega steps to be sure its clean before BF4 is installed again. But if its a program or something on the PC making the issue my steps will not work to fix it. But  you are doing all things correct could always open the case and have a fan near it to see if it is a temp  issue.

http://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/PC-This-is-how-to-fix-BF4-after-everything-else-failed-to-fully/m-p/2993466#U2993466

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

Rebuilding Origin, BF4, Punkbuster from scratch did not work. I regret not trying the game on Vanilla first, rather than install all the DLCs, to see if that is a possible source. This is very sad. I should also note that the title is misleading because I am not experiencing lag rather freezing or stuttering. When I look at videos on people with lag, they frequently complain about getting hit behind cover or the game registering after the fact. Also there is rubberbanding which is more like being snapped back into a previous place or being stuck. I only fouind one video like my problem but, not as severe as me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgk1lA60lOI

Still on the ledger:

Getting a no-wireless modem

Accepting that, through upgrades, EA has pushed my system to obselete and a weak link is at fault: motherboard, chipset, onboard sound, HDs, RAM,

Looking at the registry value by value

Another idea saw was to adjust the virtual memory and its settings. I need to learn more about this.

Another rumor that I saw on the boards was that the patch was targeted against hackers and that I'm being hit because I'm on some list.

Please EA, Help me!!

I wish you had win 8.1 way more easy to fix registry issues :/ But your on win 7 so we deal with what we have. 

 Whats this about...... Another rumor that I saw on the boards was that the patch was targeted against hackers and that I'm being hit because I'm on some list..... If you got reported or did hack you would just be banned they are not going to give you lag just a silly thing someone is saying by the sounds of it. 

Adjust the virtual memory and its settings not sure it will help but not hard to undo if its no help. How much ram do you have in your PC?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/change-virtual-memory-size#1TC=windows-7

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 & BF3 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH!!!

This helped in my case:

1) Disabling my Xtreme Tuner (or any GPU modifier). I did this by using the program to restore factory defaults and then stopping it from running in the seetings.
2) Adding 2GB of page file memory to my D: drive for a total of 6GB.
3) Not using Motioninjoy. I am still using MIJ because I will not play with the keyboard but, I only was able to get it stable after that one time I was testing without it. I also set MIJ to local mode to see if i could play with it and so far so good.

4) It could be all a coincidence and EA could've updated the servers.

I'll post it as solved after a couple of days without issues.

Nice good jod :womanhappy:

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 & BF3 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.

Also I forgot. I changed the power profile of the pc to "High Performance"

With all the changes I made I don't know which one was the clincher. Unfortunately, I'm too scared to start reversing to see which one it was.

If its fixed dont worry on it as it was all good steps you did. Just let it go lol be safe not sorry :womanlol:

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I do NOT work for EA , I am just a gamer who will try to help another gamer on PC fix BF4 & BF3 issues. Did I try and help you @ all? Reward me with a XP. If I solved your question please hit Accept As Solution on my post so others know it worked.