NO 3D-spotting!
NO 3D-spotting! That is all, just get rid of 3D-spotting completely. The worst thing from BF3 / BF4 times were the gun attachments that autospott enemy players. Battlefield 5 did a good first step a...
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@cso7777 wrote:
@Skill4ReelOne of the issues with spotting is vehicles. You fly around in a plane, move "large distances" pretty quick and then shoots at red dots/doritos on the screen. This makes helis/planes totally awful for infantry, which has no chance against this.
Also shooting doritos is stupid, we have to shoot at enemy players. Dice has cluttered the maps and made the visibility so bad (since BF4 at least), that the only solution is apparantly to put doritos on enemies...
The 3D spotting in Battlefield 4 did not discourage players from sitting on rooftops for entire matches even if the helicopters and planes were killing them over and over again. You would think that on a map like Dawnbreaker where people on rooftops were getting killed by air vehicles so much that it would encourage them to get on the ground where the objectives were and fight to control them, but this was not the case.
I can not agree that 3D spotting has been a detriment to this series. Sure many people don't like it, but the different Battlefield games so far have proven that whether 3D spotting is there or not that it hasn't affected how people play the game at all. As the same complaints about lack of teamwork, balance issues, camping, and now visibility in a game where 3D spotting as not present continue to be there.
Edit: Also I am curious why DICE implemented 3D spotting into this series from the beginning. If they have said why in the past. Then someone please refresh my memory. I am just curious what the original reason was for 3D spotting being in Battlefield. Maybe a developer can answer this question.
@Skill4Reel wrote:Edit: Also I am curious why DICE implemented 3D spotting into this series from the beginning. If they have said why in the past. Then someone please refresh my memory. I am just curious what the original reason was for 3D spotting being in Battlefield. Maybe a developer can answer this question.
3D spotting first debuted in BF2142 and believe me it was a huge leap forward from the old audio spotting system where you were driven absolutely mad by "ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED" 150 times in a row. It literally was a constant barrage of audio spot reports over and over and over on a busy server.
Tracking 3D marker on top of head and on 2D minimap or last known location and active spotting from recon tools? That's where I would draw line if there's no separation. If there's separate experiences then go for both extremes and make middle ground options available on community servers. I feel that both core and hardcore are too extreme ends of spotting but I tend to play core.
Actual BF2 had 3D markers.
https://imgur.com/gallery/k7M5Knh
It was much more effective dew to lack of clutter and colourisation of maps.
Note: the target is only passive 3D spotted at the time as not yet spotted on the minimap.
@Teal_Pipo_Fredo wrote:Tracking 3D marker on top of head and on 2D minimap or last known location and active spotting from recon tools? That's where I would draw line if there's no separation. If there's separate experiences then go for both extremes and make middle ground options available on community servers. I feel that both core and hardcore are too extreme ends of spotting but I tend to play core.
Pre BFV I was often ranting about how people do not spot enemies enough for their team.
In BF3/4/1 there was only 3D+2D spotting from active Q button spotting and 2D only spotting from recon tools as well as from firing the guns.
@UP_Hawxxeye wrote:
@Teal_Pipo_Fredo wrote:Tracking 3D marker on top of head and on 2D minimap or last known location and active spotting from recon tools? That's where I would draw line if there's no separation. If there's separate experiences then go for both extremes and make middle ground options available on community servers. I feel that both core and hardcore are too extreme ends of spotting but I tend to play core.
Pre BFV I was often ranting about how people do not spot enemies enough for their team.
In BF3/4/1 there was only 3D+2D spotting from active Q button spotting and 2D only spotting from recon tools as well as from firing the guns.
Exactly right @UP_Hawxxeye ,
Certainly on console the trouble was often that we even lacked friendlies who cared to help spotting enemies in core mode!
Only the carbines in BF4 with the Auto Detector accessory was overpowered in this regard, (though think it only worked when ADS?)
Maybe on PC, with all their hacker accessories, with full all-on auto spotting scripts they had the problem with aka the entire Locker map lit up as a Christmas tree full of shining Doritos? :o)
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