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Grubse
Seasoned Newcomer
12 years ago

"Rami-Warsaw Theme" Battlefield 4 Original Soundtrack "Claimed By INgroove" False,Scam

Hello People!

 

Lately I have uploaded a bunch of Battlefield 4 videos with the song "Rami-Warsaw Theme" which is the Original Soundtrack of Battlefield 4 (Link To Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4PFK4eCxRw )

 

Now In All Of My Videos Where This Song Is In A Company Named INgroove Claims That The Song Is Recorded And Administered By Them (INgrooves) Which I believe is a scam. I Have Contacted EA Support On The Internet And They Can't Help So I Came Here And Hopefully We Can Make This Post Seen By EA,Dice Or Any Other Who Can Help!

 

EA Live Support (Proof They Can't Help) [Copy Paste From An Online Chat] (If Im Not Allowed To Post These Advisor Names Here On The Forum Im Very Sorry)

 

"you: I Would need a confirmation or something is this an mistake by INgrooves?
Sandeep: I once again appreciate your views and also the love for the game.
Sandeep: I apologize but right now there is no information regarding this on my side.
Sandeep: Also my resources are limited here.
Sandeep: If you think, something is wrong you can update that on the game forums." (Which I did)

 

 

So What To Do? Well First Of I Want TO Mention That If You Would Go To Amazon And Check The BF4 Album The Warsaw Song Is Made By A Guy Named "Rami". I Did Some Research About This Guy "Rami" Is Real Name Is "Jukka Rintamäki" And He Made The BF3 Soundtrack Aswell. I Check His Website And Read About Im On Wikipedia And There Is Nothing About A Company Named "INgrooves". 

 

Then My Point Is That The Company INgrooves Makes Money Out Of Our Videos (The Videos With This Song) So They Are Making Money Out Of EA Copyrighted Material (If Am Right With This Whole Thing) Which Is Illegal! 

 

Now This Is What The Claim On YouTube Says!

 

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Your video may include music that is owned by a third party.

To hear the matched music please play the video on the right. The video will play from the point where the matched content was identified.

Your video is available and playable.
Here are the details:
  • "Rami-Warsaw Theme", sound recording administered by:0:00
    INgrooves 
To learn more about how claims impact your videos click here.
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To Dispute This Claim We Need Proof Like License Or Somesort Of Online Terms Of Use Of The Soundtrack. And The EA Live Support Team Can't Find It So I Guess We Will Have It Even More Harder To Find It.
 
What To Do
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I believe that this copyright claim is not valid, because:

 I own the CD/DVD or bought the song online.

 I'm not selling the video or making any money from it.

 I gave credit in the video.

 The video is my original content and I own all of the rights to it.

 I have a license or written permission from the proper rights holder to use this material.

 My use of the content meets the legal requirements for fair use or fair dealing under applicable copyright laws. [THIS IS THE ONE]

 The content is in the public domain or is not eligible for copyright protection.

Continue
 

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Step 2

 

I believe that this copyright claim is not valid, because:
My use of the content meets the legal requirements for fair use or fair dealing under applicable copyright laws.

If you believe that your use meets the legal requirements for exemption from copyright under appropriate law, you can dispute this claim. If you are unsure, you should seek legal counsel before submitting a dispute.       

 I am sure that my video meets the legal requirements for fair use, and I want to dispute this claim.
Cancel Continue
 

 

STEP 3 (This Is Where We Need Proof)

Claims to dispute
  •  
    "Rami-Warsaw Theme", sound recording administered by:
    INgrooves
Reason for dispute
This video uses copyrighted material in a manner that does not require approval of the copyright holder. It is a fair use under copyright law.
Please explain briefly
 
I have a good-faith belief that the claim(s) described above have been made in error and that I have the right(s) necessary to use the contents of my video for the reasons I have stated. I have not knowingly made any false statements, nor am I intentionally abusing this dispute process in order to interfere with the rights of others. I understand that filing fraudulent disputes may result in termination of my YouTube account.
Type your full name to serve as your electronic signature
 
Cancel Continue
 

DOWN HERE

So What I want to happened is that not only do we get our videos back to normal also to get this company a big punch in the head (Unless im wrong)

 

If You Are Still Reading And If You Want To Make A Change HELP ME&THE COMMUNITY!

 

--UPDATES--

⚽-So not long ago all claims made by INgrooves were taken down. But now another company claims that they own the song (Believe Music). And this is them taking money from content creators. PLEASE EA MAKE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. This makes people to not want to share their experience on Social Networks. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL EA TO MAKE BELIEVE MUSIC TO TAKE DOWN THE CLAIMS AND STOP STEALING MONEY!

 

🏈-Today (18/04/2014) Believe Music Removed Their Claims

 

 

 

9 Replies

  • EA_David's avatar
    EA_David
    Icon for Community Admin rankCommunity Admin
    12 years ago

    Hi grubse, unfortunately we can't comment on such matters through AHQ. The way forward for you now is to email permissionrequests@ea.com.

    They should be able to help get this sorted for you.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    12 years ago

    Hi,

    INgrooves is a music industry rights management service provider so probably

    this company manages the rights to this music.

    I do not know if Rami wrote the original BF theme but this theme was actually not written,

    but composed. Rami took the original theme and made this version, this composition.

    Wether he did write the original and composed this one, I wonder if he has (full) rights

    for it. This theme was commissioned by EA and/or Dice they hold the rights to the song,

    at least the biggest part and these rights are then managed by INgroove.

    Now music companies (often) also make studio arrangements so that makes their claim 
    of the recordings also probable.

     

    If these claims were false I do think the actual holder of the rights would react.

    Please note the probablies. this is just I I think about it.


    the way forward is still as mentioned.

  • Grubse's avatar
    Grubse
    Seasoned Newcomer
    12 years ago

    Hello Im Back. I Was wondering if you maybe had the information now if infact INgroove have the rights to claim that song as theirs?

  • This is quite Important, so bumping and tagging in on this thread.

    - Can someone link to EA DICE media license, because almost all BF3+BF4 videos are using that theme song to some extend.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    12 years ago

    As eadavid said, we can not comment on this in Answer HQ, please try to understand that.

    You can request the permission, to do that follow the steps in this page: http://help.ea.com/en/article/how-to-request-permission-for-ea-games-content/ .

    If this helps, please click the white XP button and to give me some XP.
    If this solves your question, click the green solution button and mark it as solution so it can help others with the same problem.

  • Grubse's avatar
    Grubse
    Seasoned Newcomer
    12 years ago

    Hi sir! THIS JUST GOT WORSE. Antoher company named Believe Music is now claiming the song to be theirs. 

  • EA_Atic's avatar
    EA_Atic
    Icon for DICE Team rankDICE Team
    3 years ago
    This is on the older side of time, I'm closing this thread to stop it from being necroed.

    If you have any issues with Battlefield 4, please make a new topic about your problems and what kind of steps you have tried to solve them.

    /Atic

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