Re: Weekly weapons Scrap Exchange updates

I recorded a video about the Battlefield 1 inventory bug.
This week MP18 is in the weekly scrap exchange.
The inventory bug affects three MP18 skins (they are not even visible by default on the inventory screen):
Der Weimaraner skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Hutier skin for MP18 (Battlefest reward), Siegfriedstellung skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

The basic inventory screen state for smg is 0/87.
When purchasing the three special MP18 skins, the smg counter changes: 1/88 -> 2/89 -> 3/90
And of course they will be visible on the inventory screen, even though they were hidden until now

my video:

This is Maria.

This is NOT a bug. This is intentional since these are considered exclusive skins, so naturally - you won't see them inside the Inventory tab until they are obtained.

I've seen a person on Reddit blaming this on the recent UI update, but this is not the case. This existed before the recent UI update and I even talked about it on Discord, which predates the update itself (I've marked the date of the post I made on Discord in red).

This was made intentionally, because these were Battlefest/Road to BFV skins. I knew this cap increase existed from beforehand, and I've literally mentioned that in Page 1 of my sheet explaining how the cap behaves through these skins, because they are considered "hidden" skins. I thought I made that crystal clear, but some still get confused by it

@Viancee_IlI 

sry my hunglish, Maria
But I also don't understand how you can decide with 100% accuracy whether a given skin can be obtained by battlepack.

for example, The Pegahmagabow skin for SMLE MKIII (Battlefest reward, PTFO skin)
A second event, known as Battlefest: Revolution, took place from September 19 to September 30, 2017.
4 missions for exclusive weapon skin for MP 18, Cei-Rigotti, Lewis Gun and SMLE MKIII.
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Battlefest#2017

Suppose that:
1. condition: I only started playing BF1 after the Road to BFV event
2. condition: I only get skins through battlepack (weekly scrap exchange and community missions are strictly excluded)

You decide based on the law of large numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers) whether a given skin can be obtained by battlepack.
You buy a lot of battlepacks and once you get the skin, is that skin available through battlepack?
My two conditions (1. AND 2.) must be true of course.

@HUN_gattaca_lg  I don't think it has ever been officially confirmed that these skins do not drop from battlepacks, but, empirically, it's clear it's like that.

Personally I've never got neither a PTFO skin, nor an Arras skin, a golden-mahogany skin or a golden-ivory skin (the Road to Battlefield V reward skins) from any kind od battlepacks. The same applies for the Tsar, Apocalypse and Turning Tides legendary skins (Dead Kings, De Scévola, Company K and so on). 

@mrtnm1994117 

I don't understand either:
Is
the set of skins that do not appear on the inventory screen by default (which increase the value of the counters)
proper (or strict) subset of
the the set of skins that Maria says are not available via battlepack?
Or are the two sets actually the same?

I have a bunch of scraps, I'll make a video about opening of battlepacks.
And I will compare my results with Maria's list.

@Viancee_IlI 

I had some time and read your theory several times.
I think there are 3 skin differences during the calculations.

default inventory screen:
self-loading rifle: 129 skins
smg: 87 skins
lmg: 129 skins
rifle: 143 skins
shotgun: 59 skins
sidearm: 175 skins
vehicle: 83 skin
129 + 87 + 129 + 143 + 59 + 175 + 83 = 805 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default

inventory screen with all skins:
self-loading rifle: 137 skins
smg: 92 skins
lmg: 137 skins
rifle: 151 skins
shotgun: 62 skins
sidearm: 178 skins
vehicle: 89 skin
137 + 92 + 137 + 151 + 62 + 178 + 89 = 846 skins visible on inventory screen with all skins

all 846 skins - 805 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default = 41 skins not visible on inventory screen by default

ultimate revision battlepack (special, distinguished or legendary)
potential (1 item): 15 skins + 750 other possible skin = 765 special, distinguished or legendary skins drop from battlepacks

enhanced ultimate revision battlepack (distinguished or legendary)
potential (1 item): 15 skins + 378 other possible skin = 393 distinguished or legendary skins drop from battlepacks

superior ultimate revision battlepack (legendary)
potential (1 item): 15 skins + 118 other possible skin = 133 legendary skins drop from battlepacks

special skins drop from battlepacks= 765 special, distinguished or legendary skins drop from battlepacks - 393 distinguished or legendary skins drop from battlepacks = 765 - 393= 372 special skins drop from battlepacks

distinguished skins drop from battlepacks= 393 distinguished or legendary skins drop from battlepacks - 133 legendary skins drop from battlepacks = 260 distinguished skins drop from battlepacks

805 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default - 765 skins drop from battlepacks = 40 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks

self-loading rifle (129 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default vs all 137 skins)
difference 8 self-loading rifle skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks: The Kirkpatrick skin for Cei-Rigotti (Battlefest reward), La Bizzarrìa skin for Cei-Rigotti (Road to Battlefield V reward), Blutigen April skin for Selbstlader M1916 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Odin skin for Selbstlader M1916 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Old Drum skin for M1907 SL (Road to Battlefield V reward), Ah Tabai skin for Mondragón (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Arneson skin for Autoloading 8 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Das Jagdschloss Rominten skin for Selbstlader 1906 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 self-loading rifle skins (slots) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks: The Dead Kings skin for Howell Automatic (APOC), Flora Sandes skin for Howell Automatic (APOC), Noyelles-sur-Mer skin for General Liu Rifle (TSAR), Auby-les-Hesdin skin for General Liu Rifle (TSAR), Oituz skin for Fedorov Avtomat (TSAR), Marasti skin for Fedorov Avtomat (TSAR), Chanson de Craonne skin for RSC 1917 (TSNP), De Scévola skin for RSC 1917 (TSNP), Testament of Youth skin for Farquhar-Hill (TIDE), Tondern Raid skin for Farquhar-Hill (TIDE)

smg (87 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default vs all 92 skins)
difference 5 smg skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks: Der Weimaraner skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Hutier skin for MP18 (Battlefest reward), Siegfriedstellung skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Il Bracco skin for Automatico M1918 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Tiroler Bracke skin for Hellriegel 1915 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 smg skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks: Le Chat Noir skin for RSC SMG (APOC), Loup Garou skin for RSC SMG (APOC), Forain skin Ribeyrolles 1918 (TSNP), Felixmüller skin for SMG 08/18 (TSAR), Bakhmach skin for SMG 08/18 (TSAR), Schoenberg skin for Maschinenpistole M1912/P.16 (TIDE), Billy Mitchell skin for Annihilator, Over There skin for Annihilator, Toward the Flame skin for Annihilator, Stramm skin for M1917 Trench Carbine (TIDE),

lmg (129 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default vs all 137 skins)
difference 8 lmg skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default, and not drop from battlepacks: The Blood Tub skin for Lewis Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Golden Retriever skin for Lewis Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Yells skin for Lewis Gun (Battlefest reward), La Grand Griffon skin for M1909 Benét-Mercié (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Atterdag skin for Madsen MG (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Deutsche Dogge skin for MG15 n.A (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Boykin Spaniel skin for BAR M1918 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Canadian Cur skin for Huot Automatic (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 lmg skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks: Calligrammes skin for Chauchat (TSNP), Ma p'tite Mimi skin for Chauchat (TSNP), Monte Ortigara skin for Perino Model 1908 (TSAR), Pozzuolo skin for Perino Model 1908 (TSAR), Der Sturm skin for lMG 08/18 (APOC), Franz Marc skin for lMG 08/18 (APOC), Paul Klee skin for Parabellum MG14/17 (TSAR), Otto Dix skin for Parabellum MG14/17 (TSAR), Rendezvous skin for M1917 MG (TIDE), Amos Wilder skin for M1917 MG (TIDE),

rifle (143 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default vs all 151 skins)
difference 8 rifle skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks: The Corbett skin for SMLE MKIII (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Pegahmagabow skin for MLE MKIII (Battlefest reward), Die Wilde Jagd skin for Gewehr 98 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Teddy skin for Russian 1895 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Kaiserin Elizabeth skin for Gewehr M.95 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Osterschlacht skin for Gewehr M.95 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Eisenhower skin for M1903 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Bloodhound skin for Martini-Henry (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 rifle skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks: Poperinghe skin for Ross MkIII (APOC), Wakamiya skin for Type 38 Arisaka (TIDE), Company K skin for M1917 Enfield (APOC), De Chirico skin for Carcano M91 (TIDE), Crna Bend skin for Vetterli-Vitali M1870/87 (TSAR), Doberdò skin for Vetterli-Vitali M1870/87 (TSAR), Cobadin skin for Mosin-Nagant M91 (TSAR), Monastir skin for Mosin-Nagant M91 (TSAR), Le Grand Cheval skin for Lebel Model 1886 (TSNP), La Madelon skin for Lebel Model 1886 (TSNP)

shotgun (59 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default vs all 62 skins)
difference 3 shotgun skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks: The Cleveland skin for Model 10-A (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Washington skin for M97 Trench Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Truman skin for 12g Automatic

3 shotgun skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks: Thord-Grey skin for Sjögren Inertial (TSNP), Fismes skin for Model 1900 (TSAR), Fismette skin for Model 1900 (TSAR)

sidearm (175 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default vs all 178 skins)
difference 3 sidearm skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks: The Incarcerator skin for M1911 ("Road to Battlefield 1" Mission reward), Package from Home skin for M1911 ("Play to Give 2017" Mission reward), Holiday Package skin for No. 3 Revolver ("Holiday Mission #4 2017" reward)

vehicle (default 83 skins (slot) vs all 89 skins)
difference 6 vehicle skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default, but drop from battlepacks (6 skins): Black Shark skin for Destroyer, Checker Dazzle skin for Destroyer, Stripe Dazzle skin for Destroyer, HMA No. 3 skin for Airship, HMA No. 8 skin for Airship, HMA No. 16 skin for skin for Airship

8 self-loading rifle skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks +
10 self-loading rifle skins (slots) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
5 smg skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepack +
10 smg skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
8 lmg skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default, and not drop from battlepacks +
10 lmg skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
8 rifle skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks +
10 rifle skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
3 shotgun skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks +
3 shotgun skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
3 sidearm skins (slot), not visible on inventory screen by default and not drop from battlepacks
= total 78 skins not drop from battlepacks

10 self-loading rifle skins (slots) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
10 smg skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
10 lmg skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
10 rifle skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks +
3 shotgun skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks
= total 43 (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks NOT EQUAL 40 skins (slot) visible on inventory screen by default, but not drop from battlepacks (see above)

78 skins not drop from battlepacks + 765 skins drop from battlepacks = 843 skins NOT EQUAL 846 skins visible on inventory screen with all skins (see above)

@Colt6940H 

Maria's battlepack theory is interesting, it just needs to be proven in practice, which takes a lot of time.
I forgot that there is also a fourth type of battlepack: the Operations Battlepack.
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Battlepack/Battlefield_1_Active_Series
Operations battlepacks have a higher chance of awarding rarer skins than standard battlepacks, as well as awarding puzzle pieces to unique melee weapons (Russian Axe Puzzle Piece and Russian Award Knife Puzzle Piece).

I found a post on reddit from six years ago: the Operations Battlepack Contents.
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/84u3tz/operations_battlepack_contents/

Hoping for 1911 for once 

@Viancee_IlI

sry my hunglish
I tested Maria's battlepack theory today.
The following very detailed explanation was made by Maria:
https://imgur.com/a/zEZv1lr

How much resources did i have for the test? I had ~72000 scraps and the duration of the test was ~6 hours.
What battlepack types did i buy? I only bought superior ultimate revision battlepacks for 900 scraps.
The superior battlepack only drop a legendary skin, and it can also drop a bonus puzzle piece or xp boosts.
Of course, I recorded every superior battlepack's opening.
I didn't keep a single legendary skin, I sold everything (legendary skins, bonus puzzle pieces and xp boosts) to have as many attempts as possible.
Using this method, I was able to collect 91 different legendary skins from superior battlepacks.

I don't upload all 91 different superior battlepack's opening videos to YouTube, here is my last video when my scrap ran out.

Here is the screenshot of my test result:

I will try to explain Maria's battlepack theory one more time.

self-loading rifle skins:
8 slots of self-loading rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of self-loading rifles skins on inventory screen) AND these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Kirkpatrick skin for Cei-Rigotti (Battlefest reward), La Bizzarrìa skin for Cei-Rigotti (Road to Battlefield V reward), Blutigen April skin for Selbstlader M1916 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Odin skin for Selbstlader M1916 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Old Drum skin for M1907 SL (Road to Battlefield V reward), Ah Tabai skin for Mondragón (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Arneson skin for Autoloading 8 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Das Jagdschloss Rominten skin for Selbstlader 1906 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 slots of self-loading rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Dead Kings skin for Howell Automatic (APOC), Flora Sandes skin for Howell Automatic (APOC), Noyelles-sur-Mer skin for General Liu Rifle (TSAR), Auby-les-Hesdin skin for General Liu Rifle (TSAR), Oituz skin for Fedorov Avtomat (TSAR), Marasti skin for Fedorov Avtomat (TSAR), Chanson de Craonne skin for RSC 1917 (TSNP), De Scévola skin for RSC 1917 (TSNP), Testament of Youth skin for Farquhar-Hill (TIDE), Tondern Raid skin for Farquhar-Hill (TIDE)

smg skins:
5 slots of smg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of smg skins on inventory screen) AND these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Der Weimaraner skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Hutier skin for MP18 (Battlefest reward), Siegfriedstellung skin for MP18 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Il Bracco skin for Automatico M1918 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Tiroler Bracke skin for Hellriegel 1915 (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 slots of smg skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Le Chat Noir skin for RSC SMG (APOC), Loup Garou skin for RSC SMG (APOC), Forain skin Ribeyrolles 1918 (TSNP), Felixmüller skin for SMG 08/18 (TSAR), Bakhmach skin for SMG 08/18 (TSAR), Schoenberg skin for Maschinenpistole M1912/P.16 (TIDE), Billy Mitchell skin for Annihilator, Over There skin for Annihilator, Toward the Flame skin for Annihilator, Stramm skin for M1917 Trench Carbine (TIDE)

lmg skins:
8 slots of 8 lmg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of lmg skins on inventory screen) AND these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Blood Tub skin for Lewis Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Golden Retriever skin for Lewis Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Yells skin for Lewis Gun (Battlefest reward), La Grand Griffon skin for M1909 Benét-Mercié (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Atterdag skin for Madsen MG (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Deutsche Dogge skin for MG15 n.A (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Boykin Spaniel skin for BAR M1918 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Canadian Cur skin for Huot Automatic (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 slots of lmg skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Calligrammes skin for Chauchat (TSNP), Ma p'tite Mimi skin for Chauchat (TSNP), Monte Ortigara skin for Perino Model 1908 (TSAR), Pozzuolo skin for Perino Model 1908 (TSAR), Der Sturm skin for lMG 08/18 (APOC), Franz Marc skin for lMG 08/18 (APOC), Paul Klee skin for Parabellum MG14/17 (TSAR), Otto Dix skin for Parabellum MG14/17 (TSAR), Rendezvous skin for M1917 MG (TIDE), Amos Wilder skin for M1917 MG (TIDE),

rifle skins:
8 slots of rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of rifles skins on inventory screen) AND these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Corbett skin for SMLE MKIII (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Pegahmagabow skin for MLE MKIII (Battlefest reward), Die Wilde Jagd skin for Gewehr 98 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Teddy skin for Russian 1895 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Die Kaiserin Elizabeth skin for Gewehr M.95 (Road to Battlefield V reward), Osterschlacht skin for Gewehr M.95 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Eisenhower skin for M1903 (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Bloodhound skin for Martini-Henry (Road to Battlefield V reward)

10 slots of rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Poperinghe skin for Ross MkIII (APOC), Wakamiya skin for Type 38 Arisaka (TIDE), Company K skin for M1917 Enfield (APOC), De Chirico skin for Carcano M91 (TIDE), Crna Bend skin for Vetterli-Vitali M1870/87 (TSAR), Doberdò skin for Vetterli-Vitali M1870/87 (TSAR), Cobadin skin for Mosin-Nagant M91 (TSAR), Monastir skin for Mosin-Nagant M91 (TSAR), Le Grand Cheval skin for Lebel Model 1886 (TSNP), La Madelon skin for Lebel Model 1886 (TSNP)

shotgun skins:
3 slots of shotgun skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of shotgun rifles skins on inventory screen) AND these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Cleveland skin for Model 10-A (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Washington skin for M97 Trench Gun (Road to Battlefield V reward), The Truman skin for 12g Automatic

3 slots of shotgun skins are visible on inventory screen, BUT these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: Thord-Grey skin for Sjögren Inertial (TSNP), Fismes skin for Model 1900 (TSAR), Fismette skin for Model 1900 (TSAR)

sidearm skins:
3 slots of sidearm skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of sidearm skins on inventory screen) AND these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks: The Incarcerator skin for M1911 ("Road to Battlefield 1" Mission reward), Package from Home skin for M1911 ("Play to Give 2017" Mission reward), Holiday Package skin for No. 3 Revolver ("Holiday Mission #4 2017" reward)

vehicle skins:
6 slots of vehicle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen (if you get them, they will increase the maximum number of vehicle skins on inventory screen), BUT these skins drops from battlepacks: Black Shark skin for Destroyer, Checker Dazzle skin for Destroyer, Stripe Dazzle skin for Destroyer, HMA No. 3 skin for Airship, HMA No. 8 skin for Airship, HMA No. 16 skin for skin for Airship

8 slots of self-loading rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks    +
10 slots of self-loading rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, but these self-loading rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks    +
5 slots of smg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks    +
10 slots of smg skins are visible on inventory screen, but these smg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks    +
8 slots of 8 lmg skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks    +
10 slots of lmg skins are visible on inventory screen, but these lmg skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks    +
8 slots of rifle skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks   +
10 slots of rifle skins are visible on inventory screen, but these rifle skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks   +
3 slots of shotgun skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks   +
3 slots of shotgun skins are visible on inventory screen, but these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks   +
3 slots of sidearm skins are NOT VISIBLE on inventory screen and these skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks   
=
total 78 skins NOT DROPS from battlepacks (Maria)

Comparing my list (legendary skins dropped by superior battlepack during my test) with Maria's list (skins NOT DROPPED by the battlepacks), we can see that there is no skin that is on both lists.
Maria's battlepack theory passed my test.

A few words at the end:
If I had more scraps and more time, I would have continued the test.
I only opened superior ultimate revision battlepack for 900 scrap. I haven't tried the other three battlepack types:
-ultimate revision battlepack for 200 scrap
-enhanced ultimate revision battlepack for 450 scrap
-Operations battlepacks

The Battlefield 1 subreddit wishlist for next week:
Exchange - MP18, Obrez, Fighter, Dud Club (Skins which do not drop from battlepacks in the comments) by maria_paraskeva
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/17k53lm/exchange_mp18_obrez_fighter_dud_club_skins_which

Kattze8
-God I hope the Farquad shows up soon

Head_Tomato_5233
-The Label would be nice…the grand chevel skin is the one im after (the grey one)