The next BF game could use better visibility.

What also helped in previous titles was Class recognition; i.e. Assault has bazooka, Medic has crutches, Support has ammo, Recon has radiobeacon. They were all instantly recognisable for both sides, no matter which faction you played.

In BFV they were either stealth camouflaged or stood out like clowns. 🤨

To be fair, I have had numerous instances in BF1 where I have 'missed' an enemy for many of the reasons you list above so I don't think it is a new issue to BFV.

The main change, and I suspect the real root cause of many peoples complaints on the subject is the removal of 3D spotting as you say. 

Everything is scaled smaller in BFV. Buildings, vehicles, and especially player models.

When I stopped playing BFV and went back to BF1, I remember thinking how jumbo size the player models in BF1 look compared to BFV.

Hopefully DICE gets the scaling right in BF6 and stops miniaturizing everything.

From my experience it's only been BF5 that has really had the problem. Players were easy enough to spot in Hardcode mode in previous games and I would go as far as supposing the forced TAA in BF5 plays a large part of that.

@UP_HawxxeyeBF2 had a spotting method it allowed you to see the players name above them. Which BF3 tried to do but went over the top and was reduce in 4 even less in 1.

As for players they where visible at distance even a sniper clawing through grass was still visible even at Max draw distances. This is because at distance infantry and vehicles remained as terrain features disappeared. You could see players not class.

As games evolved the terrain reduction function reduce too. Now BF3/4 had barely any clutter or soft cover but still had hard cover. BF1 still had less hard cover but started to had lots of soft cover or clutter.

The problem is not just colourisation or brightness it is lines, which soft cover and clutter breaks these line this also what makes it hard to see.

Clutter can be vegetation compare BFV to others there is more good graphic vegetation in BFV. Reducing or removing will not make the game better it will limit terrain types more.

Even colourisation of uniforms at launch realist argue they where wrong.

Art style is going to make it harder going forward unless it becomes hero style.

Your right, spot is going to be needed, a lot more not less going forward. If people need classes so much make the class emblem the 3d spot icon.

@DingoKillr not entirely; I was an avid HC Dom player in previous titles, which made you rely more on sight & hearing than shooting doritos. And in BFV I've had more instances where players just look like rocks/shrubs, nothing made them stand out against the background. (flecktarn doing a proper job 😛)

But like you said, we gotta see them in the first place.

I play mostly BF4 at the moment, and visibility is often not much better than BFV, but the "over the top" spotting makes a difference. BF1 is better than BFV, but smoke-effects etc makes the visibility bad as well.

But it still has to be addressed. I like the removal of doritos, but this means visibility (and sound) should be better than it is now in BFV.

It honestly feels like other players are literally invisible at times and that's after 2 or 3 changes to address the issue - I hope thr BF6 team has developed a new trick or two to help out.

Camoflague is supposed to make you hard to see, I totally get it, but it's still a game and games need to be fun

If the new Battlefield is set ten years after BF4 as it has been suggested , I think everyone will be threatened by potentially perpetual Spotting arriving in one form or another.

For instance , one single Drone with IR/Thermal eyes will be able to light up everyone and everything on the field , unless . . .

For Sale in Customization (or as later reward) :

Ordinary Camo , to hide from ordinary eyes  A N D Special Camo , for hiding from special eyes (4's LA Camo)

Choice provided of being a big signature or a tiny one (firing a 'hot' weapon makes you temporarily big again , re: 4)

This second Camo will be needed , if one needs to go Drone-hunting specifically , or generally Play with regular success.

Doubled-Camo usage like this will not exclude the use of plain old eyeballs to search out Rocks , Bushes and Cover Spots for hiders .

While hunting or other countermeasure-type odd jobs like this might be considered to be 'specialized' roles in this predicted future , I think too that Lone-Wolfing , Run-n-Gunning , Zerging , Static Positioning - all of it really - is about to evolve as well with the new Tech coming in the new Game .

While an excess of Intel like this may sound Heavenly , it's actually Hellish if it includes in it as well those Receivers who are planning to act upon it . 

Hence this predicted 'evolution' .

Me , I already Play BFV and the other BF Games as if every nearby Rock , Bush or Cover Spot hides a potential shooter .

I already Play the don't-get-Spotted-til-I-get-where-I-need-to-go Game .

So it's from this bush where I see a thread in that future one day titled : We could use better INvisibility .

👿

Bottom line :

'They' must cautiously walk an extremely fine line if they are to get this next Game 'right'.

'We' must cautiously approach our 'suggestions' so as not to tip or sway them . . this time .