I have been flying lately, trying to unlock the new planes (I have maxed out all the rest). And I have noticed that stationary AA is disgustingly strong now.They punch you down from the sky in no time.....I have tried it myself and it requires almost no aim to hit the target. It's so easy! Planes just cannot escape!Not only escape but take you down.If you could actually take down AA, you would have a chance to give air support. And it was risky but possible in the previous patches. Now, not a chance!So what the hell am I supposed to do with an airplane???Also the fliegerfaust can down you with 1 shot. You stay in line for minutes just to get an airplane and than some random dude shoots you down like in 2 seconds with 1 shot??! Cmon man...........---------------------------------Please add tell EA/DICE your experience as a pilot so this can be finally balanced out for the better.And if you are in the top 0.1% as a pilot, I'm sorry but your game experience is not representative. :-)

I'm not sure why the experience of someone who is in the top 0.1% is not valid but I'm going to put my 2cents in anyway.Yes the flieger can one shot planes if you're coming in too low and more importantly too predictably. If you're flyong very laterally all game, then you open yourself up to be just as much a sitting duck as the SAA.You need to constantly be changing direction, altitude, speeds, etc. Always look behind you, go into 1st person and manually look around left and right, keep an eye on the minimap and scoreboard.Situational awareness is such an important aspect to flying and unfortunately when the ' New Generation' pilots who only started flying during the Pacific Storm Battlefarm Simulator, did not learn how to fly properly.The abuse given to infantry for months by extremely overpowered aircraft, while AA and fliegers did nothing made many of these new pilots weak. From the release of BFV AAs have been altered so many times while the planes were made weaker and weaker.During March - June 2019, AAs would down fighters in 0.8seconds and bombers 1.4seconds as calculated on many YouTube videos of testing.During August 2019 aiming reticles were off by nearly 3 plane lenghts and bombers outflew fighters.Up until December fighters didn't have bombing reticles so we had to learn how to control speed and angle to know where our bombs would land and we were accurate 95% of the time.The AAs bow while they have extreme range are not as bad as they once were damage wise, now is the time where situational awareness/skill will dominate and where those who only used flying to farm will learn to either sink or swim.AAs can be beat, fliegers can be avoided and planes can be leveled.Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

I have been shot down by Fliegerfaust with one shot multiple times, it's a broken mechanic, I'm telling you!Regarding AA I think the OP factor comes from the area each splash covers. You don't even have to hit the plane if you miss, it will still damage it. I can hit most planes with 90% accuracy no matter what maneuvers they make. It's ridiculous!

@aztec1289 Personally I didn't mind the way it was in previous titles, where there was set vehicle spawns.Infantry always had the ability to have stingers or other rocket launched weaponry along with Stationary AA's but the ability to only have 1x MAA, 1x Attack plane and 1x Fighter meant there wasn't an over abuse of a specific vehicle.On maps such as Panzerstorm, a team can spawn 3 MAA's with a range covering 66% of the map and be accompanied by SAA with the same range on multiple objectives.If they really wanted to, a team could spawn 6x MAA's and use 7x SAA. 13x AA's each with a 66% map range is far too excessive for a map that only allows 2 aircraft per side. This may seem fanciful but I have personally been in a number of servers where this happens during a full cap and you cannot spawn in without immediately being destroyed due to the range from closer based SAA'sHaving the ability to spawn 1x MAA, 1x bomber and 1x fighter would help ease the constant need to swing the nerf pendulum between Air/Ground, however I do realize this would also restrict freedoms in the vehicle choices people could use.As of right now if it was up to me I would:- Keep the AA damage but reduce the range between 25% - 50% (the Fliegers 600m range is perfect as strafing requires you to be within 600m due to bullet convergence, the AA doesn't need twice that distance)- Increase the time to overheat by 10% forcing AA gunners to be more tactful and burst fire rather than spray the target.- Tighten the flak burst to no more than 10m of the aircraft.- Remove the resupply points from spawns, forcing the players to venture out into the battlefield where they run the same risk of being blown up just like every other tank.Overall the AA's aren't that bad individually but once you get 2 or more relentless players it can become a nightmare just trying to leave spawn while they sit comfortable next to a resupply point protected in their spawn from other tanks, panzerfousts and C4.

@GUTENTAAAAGI found it tricky initially but have adapted now for the most part so usually escape in time or kill them if it's static AA. The range of SAA is more of an issue than the damage in my humble opinion, and they do need to take a look at MAA since I don't really think they should be able to sit in spawn and still cover most of the map. I've so far only been one hit killed by the Fligerfaust twice, as I was flying far too low for my own good, so am not too sure about that truthfully.Then again I'm apparently in the top 0.2% as a pilot so you might not see that as representative. That's fair enough if that's the case, as it will be trickier for newer or less experienced pilots (no offence intended).

I didn't see AA change too much , maybe their damage lower than before ? You can escape by dive as fast as you can to low altitude and find covers on the ground , the real problem is the range of AA is too long , dog fight become boring after that . But I did beat one station AA by drop bomb from Mosquito at high altitude , anyway it took me a lot of time .I think decrease the range of AA to from current distance to its 90% or decrease some damage to distance target will be better . The most important thing is hide the station AA position information especially the empty one to pilot .By the way do you notice the 8 rockets for planes in Pacific theater are weaker than before ? They can't even finish a tank with half HP .

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flyinghorse101
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@GUTENTAAAAGnice video like always :D
DanielNussi777
5 years ago
Now its, August most of the pro Pilots left the game cause the fliegerfaust still oneshot fighters and the AA spam gets out of control .
Im on the 0,1% of the pilots in bf5 tracker.
Nice work Dice
Real_Noobalishu
5 years ago
@DanielNussi777 Unfortunately that is correct, many pilots have left due to the heavy swing towards AAs with no signs of an adjustment coming. AAs as a whole aren't that bad but once you get 2 or more in tandem, there aren't many places left to fly due to the unrivalled range they have
sina_ab075
5 years ago
Product: Battlefield V
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Please specify your platform model. Sony PlayStation 4
Are you using any software with an overlay? No
Which part of the game is the issue happening in? Multiplayer
Which part of the mode? Conquest
Please select your region Europe
On which server did this happen? All servers
When did this happen? (dd.mm.yy hh:mm)
Summarize your bug AntiAir tanks are very overpowered.they are camping at their base and headshoting us at end of the map.their range is very high and they easily can camp from very long distance and kill infantries.they are becoming cancer for battlefield V.
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Just play a match in panzerstorm or alsundan or twistedsteel and other maps that you are able that use AntiAir tanks
What happens when the bug occurs? They can camp from very long range and kill soldiers very easy
What should be happening instead? Please reduce range of AntiAir tanks weapon
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AntiAir Guns are very overpowered because of their weapons range and can kill soldiers at very long distance
flyinghorse101
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@sina_ab075 See also discussion here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/AA-buff-is-an-overkill/td-p/9262907/jump-to/first-unread-message

@EA_Atic can you merge this post in that topic? This way we keep an overview. Thanks.
Lone_Strang3r
5 years ago
It's true, AA become toxic AF, i spent the major part of my time repairing, killing AA noobs that are only capable of playing an entire match on the AA ending the match with an incredile negative ratio, only because they think to get some easy kill. Not to mention the stupid fighters noob that run to AA whrn you are on their back killing them. The buff was a complete mess, i can understand a buff on the damage, but in maps like arras and narvik, the AA can kill you from spawn to spawn, it's a complete non sense. Please DICE if you still care about us and bf5 please, debuff at least the range of the AA now the game it's really unbalanced
TR_Flyingccks
5 years ago
@GUTENTAAAAG Battlefield has lost its essence. turned to more infantry game. It is a battlefiled battlefield and is famous for its vehicles. Battlefiled 4 or 3 no longer has this exciting epic skill requirement. and there is an extreme pilot hostility. In every game this problem has increased and my bf is over. This is the result of a group of unskilled infantry crying. they don't fix it. In fact, while there are many modes for infantry, they chose this in every game. If I were just going to play the infantry game, what am I doing in my bf, there are better alternatives.

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