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EA Staff (Retired)

7 years ago

Balance Update - June 5

Commander,
The June season has started and we have new unit balance changes, an updated Tiberium League map pool and bug fixes.

Read below for the full details and let us know what you think below.

Tiberium League Map Pool
- Open Water
- The Needle
- Sandbar
- Twin Pillars
- Three Lanes
- Rorschach
- Flooded Fields
- Tide Pools

Bug Fixes
- Fixed an issue where the Alliance Donations didn’t work correctly for Fanatics

GDI
APC

APC has been a fairly dominant force in the current meta. This change is to make them a little less like an immovable wall.
- Health decreased to 3300 (was 3500)

Disruptor

We heard your feedback and reduced the Disruptor’s base damage.
- Damage vs. Base decreased to 300 (was 400)

Drone Swarm

- This makes Drone Swarm a bit easier to kill by units such as Rhino and Buggy.
- Health decreased to 175 (was 200)

Grenadiers

Grenadiers aren’t quite at the level we would like just yet. Instead of increasing their combat power, we will put a bit more emphasis on what makes them special.
- Emp attack speed decrease, increased to 25% (was 15%)
- Movement speed emp increased to 60% (was 55%)

Hammerhead

Hammerhead has fallen off in recent patches.We are giving it a quality of life change as well as making it more accessible.
- Turn speed increased to 300 (was 150)
- Cost lowered to 90 (was 100)

Jump Jet Troopers

With the release of Grenadiers, we felt that Jumpjets were losing their place. With this change, we are providing a different space for them to belong.
- Damage reduced to 382 (was 400)
- Cost decreased to 40 (was 50)
- Health decreased to 200 (was 240)

Kodiak

This will allow Kodiak to feel a bit less clunky by allowing it to fire its guns while its moving.
- Now has Raider.

Mammoth Tank

Training issue against Avatar.
- Damage vs. Vehicles increased to 2130 (was 2070)
- Anti-Air Attack Delay reduced to 0 (was 1 second)

MLRS

Returning power back to the MLRS now that alternatives such as the mutant marauders and Grenadiers exist.
- Reload time decreased to 5 (was 6)

Mohawk Gunship

Tuning the Mohawk up to solidify it as GDIs consistent damage air unit against vehicles. It also now has the capability to shoot while moving but only from the side it's cannon is on
- Attack speed increased to 1.15 (was 1.4)
- Now has Raider

Sandstorm

Fixed an issue where Sandstorm was winning into certain infantry counters.
- Damage vs. Infantry decreased to 10 (was 15)
- Can now hover over lakes

Shatterer

It hovers.
- Can now hover over lakes

Slingshot

Slingshot will now be able to get into position faster.
- Speed increased to Fast (was Average)
- Can now hover over lakes

Sniper

Increasing Snipers attack speed will allow them to take down Grenadiers and Mutant Marauders in a reasonable amount of time.
- Attack Speed increased to 2.7 (was 3.0)

Titan

Titan has been a bit lackluster for several patches. We are brushing the dust off it so that players can pull it out a little earlier.
- Cost decreased to 130 (was 150)

War Dogs

A small bump so War Dogs do a bit better into its infantry match ups.
- Damage vs. Infantry increased to 22 (was 20)

Nod

Artillery

We are pleased to see that Artillery is finally seeing play; less so at how dominant and independent it is. We are decreasing its damage to push it more into a supporting role.
- Attack per second reduced to 3.6 (was 3.2)

Attack Bikes

Fixing some training issues and making early Attack Bike rushing a little less potent.
- Damage vs. Harvester decreased to 200 (was 244)
- Health reduced to 435 (was 450)
- Damage vs. Vehicles increased to 244 (was 240)

Avatar

Avatar’s flame thrower getting a bit of a bump to take on some of the new infantry that has been added recently.
- Damage vs. Infantry increased to 140 (was120)

Cyberwheels

Cyberwheels have been incredibly powerful for Nod. While we like its glass cannon design, we want it to be a bit harder to position and swarm Control Pads.
- Speed reduced to Faster (was Fastest)

Inferno

Giving the Inferno back its old cost with the addition of so many meta defining units.
- Cost decreased to 100 (was 110)

Kane

Lowering the cost of Kane slightly to make it a little more accessible.
- Cost decreased to 130 (was 140)

Phantom

Lowering Phantom’s cost along side Hammerhead as well as fixing a training issue.
- Damage vs. Aircraft increased to 755 (was 720)
- Cost reduced 100 (was 110)

Mutant Marauder

The beefy boys are a little less beefy. Also fixed some training issues.
- Damage reduced to 382 (was 400)
- Health decreased to 620 (was 650

Rockworm

Rockworm has been a bit lackluster. This change will make it more of a generalist against light infantry.
- Infantry damage increased to 180 (was 90)

Stealth Tank

Stealth Tank has been incredibly dominant for some time. We are decreasing its speed to make it easier to catch and lowering its health to promote a high-risk, high-reward playstyle.
- Speed decreased to Faster (was Fastest)
- Health reduced to 1650 (was 1800)

Venom

Spruce up for the Venom to counteract the addition of heavy infantry.
- Attack speed increased to 0.4 (was 0.5)

32 Replies

DarkGarithos
7 years ago
@xrmiao4 wrote:
@DarkGarithos wrote:
Mohawk gunship not working, its still not firing while moving. Pls fix the issue
The fact that it can only fire left does not change. Adding raider is not useful. Your opponent's unit has to move with your mohawk side by side but how could this happen lol?
The problem is i tested earlier, mohawk have to stand still then only it shot the opponent unit but not by moving around
EinarThePillager
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
Maybe the Mohawk gunship would be more useful if it has a gun on both left and right side. This would make it look like the transport helicopter of Renegade X. The main difference is the helicopter is anti-infantry and the gunship is anti-vehicle.
xrmiao4
7 years ago
Did you change something else 😠? Now stank can not oneshot a 1 flat level higher without training orca bomber
Trolloween
7 years ago
Most changes seem good, but what I don't like is how the game is being pushed towards a double harvester/Liang meta. Every game I play vs gdi use this tactic since there's really not much you can do early game anymore. (maybe it's not so bad at even levels but I don't think you can judge this game like that because games are never even).
The orca is now even stronger than it was before, its already way cheaper than stealth tanks and now the once good nod warfactory deck is completely dominated by just spamming orcas. Just spent a whole month of clone labs on the stealth tank too, but looks like they can't deal with orcas as well anymore since they can't chase them as well. Really surprised how big of a difference this makes.
EinarThePillager
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
You know what would be nice for another Nod vehicle? A experimental vehicle derived from stolen blueprints of the slingshot. I'd say it would be the mantis, but it can be named any other way. This vehicle I want to suggest is a stronger AA vehicle compared to the stealth tank and goes toe to toe with slingshots, if they are both floating and can aim at the other.
spartandeath102
7 years ago
Nerf the slingshot it too overpowered anand need a health nerf, nerf the mammoth tank speed and damage,nerf dr.liang and make him only able to heal one unit at a time with the drone make the drone a ome shot and lower it's durability, kane obelisk should be similar to a giga cannon, basilisk need a biff where it doesn't recharge it beam on squad units, apc need lower health since they shouldn't be more tankier than a tank and make them cheaper, make the lazer drones more tanky like war dogs but maybe lower the attack speed, phantom could use more missles but with more missles lower it's damage,give stealth tanks there speed back, increade jumpjets health and slightly there damage, decrease the attack of pitbull but make it fire 2 missles at once
XMasterBishopX
7 years ago
This balance update is * up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hizsoo
7 years ago
JJT, as a 40 cost fast moving anti vehicle unit, become more spamable and better for early rushes, so we might need a revert on that.
xrmiao4
7 years ago
@Trolloween wrote:
Most changes seem good, but what I don't like is how the game is being pushed towards a double harvester/Liang meta. Every game I play vs gdi use this tactic since there's really not much you can do early game anymore. (maybe it's not so bad at even levels but I don't think you can judge this game like that because games are never even).
I feel like there is too many things I have to do and my fingers are not enough. I have to keep my scout blocking the tib field while ordering other units around...
@Trolloween wrote:
The orca is now even stronger than it was before, its already way cheaper than stealth tanks and now the once good nod warfactory deck is completely dominated by just spamming orcas. Just spent a whole month of clone labs on the stealth tank too, but looks like they can't deal with orcas as well anymore since they can't chase them as well. Really surprised how big of a difference this makes.
I tried to get rid of banshee for my nod warfac build but I recently realize I really need it.
Siducky7777
7 years ago
Kane
Lowering the cost of Kane slightly to make it a little more accessible.
- Cost decreased to 130 (was 140)
I mean 10 tiberium literally in my opinion makes zero sense and 0 difference. It doesn’t address the reason the avatar is underwhelming at all. The problem was never the price of the obelisk but rather the difficulty of actually getting a positive return on your investment.
Here are a few ideas to make it more worthwhile just to throw them out there:
make the obelisk permanent, limited to maximum one active at a time but make it consume a population slot?
when placing it on the tile, before the spawn animation plays allow the player to designate a target?
Allow the obelisk to fire immediately after the spawn animation (first shot only) other subsequent shots need to charge as normal.
Make the obelisk “melt” enemy vehicle armour for a short time (maybe make them glow red so we know how long the debuff lasts) thereby amplifying any damage dealt by other units which are strong against this unit type for a short time.
Explode on destruction like the avatar - so at least we get that value even if it didn’t get to fire?