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DeathAngelKari
New Novice
2 years ago

Dreadwolf: I am still hoping

Hello everyone, 

Yes I am one of the sad people who think that Veilguard is no Dragon Age, hear me out... 

The Dragon-Age Lover that I am bought myself merch of Veilguard anyways? Why? Because it is Dragon Age and I am still hoping. What would stand inbetween having Veilguard for whoever likes that AND DreadWolf as an alternative Timeline. 

I have the Artbook and saw all the plans originally for Dreadwolf and I sit there and just keep saying "I want to play that game!" And get sad about to what it was reduced to. I do not care that Veilguard and Dreadwolf possibly has a similar ending chapter. So be it.

But for Dreadwolf? I'd love that game, some of the stuff I had seen in the Artbooks, much more story, much more gameplay, much deeper Characters, so much time to explore and enjoy Thedas. I dig that. 

I've played Origins through almost two dozend times (still praying for that remake), Dragon Age 2 I play that every now and then just for fun, just because I can, I have around 1000+ hours in Inquisition I play it on PC and PS4. I love them.

Unfortunatelly, as much as I apprechiate the developers trying to make us happy with Veilguard, it does not feel like Dragon Age. Solid game, played it through twice. Solid game - good work devs. But not a Dragon Age, it made me miss Dragon Age while playing it. (I started a full run through all the Dragon Age games again because it teased just enough Dragon Age to miss the actual DA games.)

I would love for a game where the keep actually mattered. I still look the videos from the DA Keep listening to Varric telling the story of our world. I love it, and I doubt I would be the only person that would love to play what was planned in Dreadwolf.

So #PleaseGiveUsDADreadwolf ???

Thanks to everyone who read that far.

4 Replies

  • NoahLGP's avatar
    NoahLGP
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    I would prefer the end of Dragon Age franchise because they are many rivals in the same genre which are much more popular.

    BioWare could extend the Mass Effect franchise. I would like a spin-off inspired by SWTOR about the events before Mass Effect trilogy.

    I think the studio did better sci-fi games than dark fantasy games.

  • I never was a DA fan, only enjoying the games and perhaps this is why I have no idea what means "a Dragon Age game". But to reject a game only because is called Veilguard and not Dreadwolf seems a bit out. I've seen same unjustified rejection about Mass Effect Andromeda and almost missed that game because of that. Well, I see Andromeda as an excellent game - a new chapter in Mass Effect just as well as I see the Veilguard as new chapter in Dragon Age. Even more so, the Veilguard is a nice way to say farewell to first 3 games, offering a closure as you lose the connections with those and open up the new field, new stories, new characters. 

    I'm asking as simple player, what is the definition of Dradon Age Game? How can you identify one and how to exclude the fake? What is in DAtV which is not part of DA or better said, what is missing (aside the Keep)?

  • DeathAngelKari's avatar
    DeathAngelKari
    New Novice
    24 days ago

    Dragon Age became popular at the start through the fact that it was dark fantasy, and in the later games remembered what you had done in your past games. Decisions that carry over. Small details that show you that your decisions in the game mattered. 
    That went so far that depending on what you did in Dragon Age Origins you had Queen Anora and or King Alastair appear with the mages, Cullen remembered your Origins character AND the Hawk character from Dragon Age 2, and big decisions in Origins resurfaced if you had Warden Strout (standard option), Warden Alastair or even Warden Loghain encounter your Inquisitor. 

    Dragon Age usually made you feel the world changed depending on what you did before. We had a event tapestry (Dragon Age Keep) dedicated to just that. A tool they had announced they would use for future projects - but pretty much scrapped that idea after Inquisition. Even that honestly I loved the keep and that Varric made the little recap for you.
    A story where your decisions past and present ones had weight. Bioware was known as the ultimate decision makers. 
    And originally you could play your companions as well and they were able to die, that actually helped you caring for them, because if they drop you want to strategize that they stay alive. And their approval felt oftentimes at least meaningful.

    In Veilguard your Past decisions do not matter at all. It literally tells you "we do not care, the south (where you had played before) is dead now".
    Additionally no decision in Veilguard feels important, it is flavor play but "oh do you slap the 1st Warden or talk him down?" (that has seemingly no real effect on much at all) not like "You have to decide between saving the elves or the werewolves or decided to help both parties."
    Or you have to decide to save the mages or the templars. 
    In the old Dragon Age games you actually could be evil to a point, you could have your own opinion about things. Like Bloodmagic, sure in Inquisition you could not practice it, but you could at least have an opinion about it. In Origins and DA2 you even could do Blood Magic and it had - partially actually consequences. 
     The only past decision is "Oh yeah if your Inquisitor romanced Solas there is a special ending", everything else does not really matter.
    And it is even more bitter when you saw the artbook and saw that this ALL was planned, and I went through those pages and was like "I want that game!", starting at the Inquisition being sent by the Inquisitor, the plans looked promising, but it got scrapped, because of team changes and they were told to release a Life Service game, the community protested agaunst - it still feels like one just without the service. 

    Don't understand me wrong, I played Veilguard through twice and it is a solid game, but all the things that remind me of Dragon Age, just remind me how the other Dragon Age games were and that I'd rather play those. 
    I literally just recently played an entire path through. Dragon Age: Origins/Awakening, Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age : Inquisition and when I was through with Trespasser (DA:I DLC) I just wanted to keep going, keep gaming. 

  • DeathAngelKari's avatar
    DeathAngelKari
    New Novice
    24 days ago

    Thank you for your response (sorry for the LONG delay I am rarely here on that forum) 
    I agree with you to disagree. Bioware was tied to some of the most outstanding Fantasy RPG franchizes in gaming history. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 were both originally made BY Bioware, Neverwinter Nights , Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is Science Fantasy. Dragon Age Origins was an outstanding strategic descendant of that. 
    Dragon Age 2 had a lot of problems, but it still was a solid Dragon Age game (I am aware many OG DA fans would decapitate me for that sentence)
    Dragon Age Inquisition was amazing, even if in many ways too much going into the "Fantasy Action Shooter" but the story was still deep and based on the story. 

    Mass Effect 1-3 is just as much a funded combination the story is complex and deep and (please don't kill me) I called it Dragon Age in Space, for a long time when I started to play Mass Effect in 2012. 
    Bioware was known for difficult decisions, amazing deep companions and breath taking roleplay. 
    THAT Bioware - I hope I am wrong but it feels like it - is no longer there. That Studio does no longer exist, something I am very sad about.

    Andromeda was an absolute Train Wreck of a game. 
    And Veilguard ... as I said solid game - no Dragon Age. 
    The problem is I think EA does not understand what Dragon Age is and tries to make it a fantasy Mass Effect, except that making your comrades unkillable literally just causes me to not care about them as much. 
    That you could not steer your companions was already in Mass Effect something I was not a fan of. Like at all. 
    But I know many who like it better that way. 
    I agree to disagree there. People have their opinion and that is legit and okay, even if it is not mine. 

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