Alex Gillon tyre wear Deep dive

It just shows its pointless adjusting setup for tyre wear. Only a 3% difference over 30 laps with a time trial setup over a tyre saving setup.

He suggests driving is style is more important to tyre saving, however with this years tyre model, where the tyres have a cliff edge drop after 25% that also introduces understeer it won't effect much either.

Its an undercut only strategy in this game its insanely powerful and boring 

The tyres need a 'graining' phase to be more realistic. If the tyre grip had a cliff edge at 25% like it is just now, but levelled off to be more stable after 35% it would be better and allow more strategy. Right now its cliff edge and getting so much slower rather than a gradual levelling off 

Doesn't help, just shows how bad this new tyre model is as it's gone from being an understandable linear grip decrease to a stupid grip scale that makes no sense. EA yet again ruining the fun.

@hotmeils the only linear wear and performance rates you'll ever find is on your passenger car's tyres as they're designed that way. Reliable, from the store shelf to the landfill. 

Racing tyres have a cliff.

Yeah, they have a cliff. Just it's NOT AT 25%. And if that cliff exists, it's got to be both for normal people and AI, not just normal people.

Stop defending these guys who make games less fun and make * "tyre models" which are unrealistic.

Ah yes, an AI problem. That's why I'm not the only one complaining about the ridiculous and unrealistic 25% * and stupid tyre cliff. Because it is an AI problem.

As blind and annoying as you want to be, it is a * tyre model for people who don't want to lose 200 hours becoming setup freaks. But oh well, this is what the game is becoming, a setup freak wonderland.

If you think the tyre model is unrealistic, your issue is indeed with the tyre model.

If you're unsatisfied because the AI leaves you in the dust for not having to deal with the same tyre model as human players, your beef is with the AI system.

See the difference?

Again, I'd be all in for an accessibility feature where players who want a simplified arcade experience could just toggle it and have a linear wear and performance rates for their tyres. That's fine.

And I'll drop this again if you come around and decide to look further into this whole tyre model thing:

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The AI not being subjected to the same tyre model as us players is indeed an issue. 

Plus, there's no guarantee it will take some tweaking in the near future to make it more approachable. But about how realistic the behavior is...

Every racing tyre has a drop off point, usually called the cliff. It is a very distinct point wherein your laptimes take a significant hit, even if you were to always keep your workrate stable.

Say you're so consistent and precise that you can keep demanding the same level of work from your tyres. Your lap times will gradually increase as you squeeze the life out of that rubber, then you hit the cliff and those laptimes shoot upwards, increasing drastically and keeping on increasing from then on.

That's due to how the tyres behave. They're elastic, and grip comes from how they deform and how they twist. They're always on a cycle of heating up and cooling off, heating up and cooling off.

As the tyre thread runs thin, and the rubber goes over a significant number of cycles, the rubber simply cooks. This transform their properties and they cannot work as before.

Again, not saying the game is spot on, and that F1 tyres have their cliff at around 20% or so. But then, what are those percentages anyway?

Rhetorical question, obviously. They're simplifying and gamefying what would look very differently on a race engineer screen in the pitwall. There's no "Lewis, your front left has hit 18% wear". They're monitoring temps and performance (slip angles, slip ratios and behavior), and constantly adjusting their marks a plethora of factors like track and air temperature evolve. 

But the behavior? The cliff? That's realistic. And it should not be changed, just tweaked.

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Boys Boys, stop fighting, all Codebusters and EverlastingArseache have to do is borrow a nearly 10 year old tyre model that is in my opinion fantastic and reach out to Kunos and borrow it.

Oh they had better do it quick because the new one will be out next year and then it will be to late.