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- ScarDuck142 years agoLegend@FMassa88 Someone in an interview back around release day said it’s something they are working on. Same someone also said they listened to the community and we wanted F1 world 🤷🏻♂️
- Nellix822 years agoRising Ace@FMassa88 they are promises like politicians thrown away.... in my opinion not really any more ideas I just hope they are dedicating themselves to 24 with everything new but my hope is low....
- FMassa882 years agoNew Veteran@ScarDuck14 i personally don't have anything against f1 world i do like that events and pro challenges or scenarios,but when i play ranked modes and one guy use some hack and is 5 to 10 sec faster per lap is anoying,
- ScarDuck142 years agoLegend@FMassa88 I didn’t and I wouldn’t have. But it seems to me adding F1 World has caused countless issues with existing game features
- Nellix822 years agoRising Ace@ScarDuck14 off-topic question.....do you think they understood what the community needs? a simarcade plus sim game and not a total arcade one like now?
- ScarDuck142 years agoLegend@Nellix82 As the game content is F1 specific. It limits its appeal compared to other racing games GT7/Forza with amount of different cars etc. Even though ACC is a hardcore sim. What it does have are cars most people know and aspire to one day having the road legal model.
F1 cars are obviously out of everyones reach. Plus to most they all look the same and then like this season it was very exciting up front. F1 really is a niche sport that only really appeals to those off use that geek out to automotive engineering. Which a majority will be casual gamers at best.
Making the game a sim will mean a high learning curve which will put a large number of F1 players off. So the game can only exist imo as a SimCade at most. I think the strategy behind F1 world was to make it more Arcade in hope of making it more appealing to wider demographic of people and by F1 world’s mechanics it’s obviously targeted at younger players. But imo again was always going to fail. Younger players want NFS 5 minute race excitement and crashes. Then will progress to GT7/Forza
But I have always loved Codemasters SimCade philosophy. But rather than spend time and resources improving and strengthening that philosophy they have got caught in the trap off trying to come up with something big and shiny that will grab the headlines. As sales of game have shown. It’s been an epic fail.
Very Good YouTube video by a Proper Sim racer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfaC727lnrg - mariohomoh2 years agoHero (Retired)
@Nellix82I'm signing below everything @ScarDuck14 said. Including the video he linked - Random Callsign is a solid Youtuber in the simracing scene. And I mean the simracing, simracing scene.
To chime in on your specific question, I do think that devs know what the community wants. But I don't think execs and higher ups are really intending to deliver that.
Up to now, everything points to them attempting to repackage this franchise as an annualized iterative platform with microtransactions and FOMO sort of content. As in, "oh I absolutely need to play this many hours of F1 World this week or else I'll lose on that neat special edition helmet".
That's not what we want, but I'm afraid they'll devout their resources into tweaking that formula until they drive engagement and revenue up to the best the F1 brand can provide.
I would not expect a good game from them until a clear, unambiguous break from that design ethos and revenue model is communicated.Everyone should keep a clear head when the marketing kicks up for F1 24. Wait until proper reviews and until the community has shared their experience with the main aspects of the game - handling, career and multiplayer.
- Nellix822 years agoRising Ace@ScarDuck14 I agree with everything.....with your opinions...to get 3 new users you lose 10 for a helmet or livery when if you give free customization you would gain 15 users....marketing has always paid to play failed but they persist. we all agree that the future is multiplayer and yet they seem to have blindfolds in front of their eyes. what will it be on the 24th? the copy paste of the 23rd? why don't they give any news. absurd
- ScarDuck142 years agoLegend@Nellix82 Also One of codemasters biggest strengths was a genre leading and challenging Ai. One of the reasons single player career has been the most popular mode for years.
However things on that front look bleak. Not just because Ai this year is bad. But I was reading an article last week that Sony and Polyphony have now trained SophyAi to be able to race every car in GT7 and the next stage being to train on every track at every distance. Full implementation of SonyAi into GT7 isn’t as far off as many articles initially reported when Sony first showcased it. SophyAi will massively change single player and non competitive multiplayer sim racing.
Biggest problem with multiplayer that is constantly complained about is cheats and grievers and they will always be a presence. SophyAi will not only be a superior racer compared to most humans it won’t cheat, - Nellix822 years agoRising Ace@ScarDuck14 my friend it's not just the AI that's the problem.....it's missing an antique.....the real asphalt with disconnected tires and wear....a truly dynamic weather.....customization... .setups that make a difference.....saving the entire race even on console are things that I always repeat because there are many championships asking for it and even more for offline