Hey drivers, The newest patch is now available across all platforms. You can find out what's in this patch in this thread here Need some help? Something in the patch not working the way it should? Tell us in this thread! -rephii

It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products.It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable.Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG.Red flags are still broken.Safety cars are still broken.You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it.Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized.You did neither.I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers.Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work.The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?!

Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't. This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

The F1 World tech changes has improved nothing. Granted, I'm now 4 seconds a lap faster than the AI instead of 6, but that's it. Shove the tech modifier up and you end up with noobs in rocket ships. Fast in straight lines but can't handle a fight. Only played it for 5 minutes and the problems were instantly visible, how the testers didn't notices this beggars belief. New year, same old story.Leaving the AI difficulty locked at 35% is what's holding the whole feature back. I can't believe it's just being left that way.Edit: It just feels like, for the past few years, when there's a fix needed, the minimum amount of effort possible is put into it, corners are cut, compromises are made, and it becomes just surface-level, papering over the cracks."But for this to work properly, you need to fix this aswell""Nah, just do this and leave it. It'll take too much time and effort, need to work on the eSports model anyway. Besides, this game is only for casuals now, they won't notice."That's how it feels.

This sums it up @Trekari wrote: It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products. It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable. Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG. Red flags are still broken. Safety cars are still broken. You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it. Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized. You did neither. I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers. Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work. The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?! This sums it up very well. It's awful. Not once was there an apology to the huge playerbase not being able to play for 2 months. They just don't care. They got the money and that's all they want anyway. I sincerely hope the sales continue to plummet and they get what they deserve. For the fact this is a racing game, it's incredible that all these FFB issues are still around and simply won't be patched. At least have the decency to offer refunds to those who are screwed by all these issues or offer an apology. We know that EA has never cared about their customers. F1 is a new low tho. [Edited] CM Edited post to clean things up to align with rules.

@Iceman038-NL wrote:Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

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RobbyJr24
2 years ago
Today in F1 world, Australia Dry events with WET tyres again... 😞
RezzoBob
2 years ago
On ps5 g923 Is completly broken
Ffb and vibrations are Crazy even if you set them to 0
RobbyJr24
2 years ago
@RezzoBob wrote:
On ps5 g923 Is completly broken
Ffb and vibrations are Crazy even if you set them to 0
Maybe 15 updates later, will be fix this.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@RobbyJr24 Love the optimism😂
Meza994
2 years ago
@Trekari And what exactly has he to do with it? Is he the dev? Is he the one person at EA who enforces their rules to the devs?

Constructive criticism is something else
Dinaatio
2 years ago
I’ve been getting these random vibrations on my controller on Xbox Series X. It feels the same as wheel spin or lock up but it’s happening through out the race on certain spots (really noticeable on the straights). I’ve tried everything I can to make sure it’s not a problem on my end, but it seems like it’s another bug in the game. It only happens in races. Never in quali or tt.
Trekari
2 years ago
@Meza994How high up in the chain does someone need to be to express a simple apology? I could've tagged every EA and CM username on this forum, and my point would remain valid. Raphii happens to be here the most, so I tagged them.

What exactly is preventing anyone from EA saying as much?

Pride? Arrogance?

By all means, continue to make excuses for their behavior. They clearly need more.

When you were told as a child that you should apologize for something, did you tell the adult in question that their criticism wasn't "constructive?" I was raised to apologize when appropriate. Shame on me for expecting the same basic human behavior from the companies I do business with.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Trekari No one is making excuses for them. But you’re aiming your anger at EA employees. Who like most of us do what our bosses tell us.
Meza994
2 years ago
@TrekariYou are just raging at community managers from the publisher.. If you dont see why they are not to blame for the problems of the game then its up to you..

Those who are to blame for a problem should apologize, what you are doing here is the same as going to a grocery store and screaming at the cashier because of higher prices..
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:
The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.
If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.
As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't.
This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

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