Hey drivers, The newest patch is now available across all platforms. You can find out what's in this patch in this thread here Need some help? Something in the patch not working the way it should? Tell us in this thread! -rephii

It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products.It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable.Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG.Red flags are still broken.Safety cars are still broken.You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it.Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized.You did neither.I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers.Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work.The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?!

Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't. This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

The F1 World tech changes has improved nothing. Granted, I'm now 4 seconds a lap faster than the AI instead of 6, but that's it. Shove the tech modifier up and you end up with noobs in rocket ships. Fast in straight lines but can't handle a fight. Only played it for 5 minutes and the problems were instantly visible, how the testers didn't notices this beggars belief. New year, same old story.Leaving the AI difficulty locked at 35% is what's holding the whole feature back. I can't believe it's just being left that way.Edit: It just feels like, for the past few years, when there's a fix needed, the minimum amount of effort possible is put into it, corners are cut, compromises are made, and it becomes just surface-level, papering over the cracks."But for this to work properly, you need to fix this aswell""Nah, just do this and leave it. It'll take too much time and effort, need to work on the eSports model anyway. Besides, this game is only for casuals now, they won't notice."That's how it feels.

This sums it up @Trekari wrote: It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products. It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable. Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG. Red flags are still broken. Safety cars are still broken. You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it. Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized. You did neither. I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers. Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work. The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?! This sums it up very well. It's awful. Not once was there an apology to the huge playerbase not being able to play for 2 months. They just don't care. They got the money and that's all they want anyway. I sincerely hope the sales continue to plummet and they get what they deserve. For the fact this is a racing game, it's incredible that all these FFB issues are still around and simply won't be patched. At least have the decency to offer refunds to those who are screwed by all these issues or offer an apology. We know that EA has never cared about their customers. F1 is a new low tho. [Edited] CM Edited post to clean things up to align with rules.

@Iceman038-NL wrote:Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

159 Replies

Trekari
2 years ago
@Meza994Where have I suggested that Raphii is responsible for the coding of this game?

They are a "Community Manager" right? Seems to me like that job would at least be one of the people who could actually communicate some kind of remorse for the outcome of the game.

As I said in my other post you took exception to: ANYONE at EA could come here and offer a simple apology. NONE of them have done so.

Not Raphii. Not any other EA-branded name here. Nobody.
Edit: @Ultrasonic_77 Multiple companies within the past handful of years have released huge public statements about their failure to deliver a quality product. Cyberpunk 2077 and LotR: Gollum come to mind immediately. That's certainly one extreme of the spectrum in issuing an apology, but we don't even get the complete opposite end of just a simple "We know we've let you down and we'll do better."
It doesn't have to be on twitter. It doesn't have to be a press conference. Failing to express the sentiment at all? Not ok.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Ultrasonic_77 They apologised for Gollum and cyber punk.

Agree with everything else you said
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77They apologised for Gollum and cyber punk.

Agree with everything else you said
I don't know about Gollum, but the Cyber Punk case was also associated with mass refunds and removal from sale. F1 23 is also not anywhere close to as broken as Cyber Punk was.
Meza994
2 years ago
@Trekari Still the same, screaming at the cashier for a product thats gotten more expensive.. Scream at Codemasters for doing it bad, EA is a mere publisher
But in the end @Ultrasonic_77 is right with what he says but do as you feel is right
Trekari
2 years ago
@Ultrasonic_77If you don't know about Gollum, I suggest staying blissfully ignorant of it at all costs. :D

It was awful. Bad enough that Daedalic Entertainment closed their development studio entirely. Metacritic score of 39/100 for PC. Likely headed to a 'Worst Game of the Year" award, although Redfall is making a strong argument for itself too.
@Meza994 You should try reading my comments and then responding. I don't know how many times I have to express you why I tagged Raphii. (Who again is a CM - not a 'cashier.') You also need to work on your analogies.
Where is the "Codemaster" place I'm supposed to direct my comments to? Last I checked, this was the F1 23 forum.
Dinaatio
2 years ago
@Meza994 In a perfect world we would all have infinite patience but I get that people are angry. And he will never have the chance to directly speak to the people responsible.
Trekari
2 years ago
In an unrelated remark:

Has anyone found that "Pit Release Assist" gives back control of the car too late to be making Turn 1 without locking tyres up (for example, in Bahrain)? Happened with both Hard and Medium tyres.
Meza994
2 years ago
@Trekari I read yours right, i just dont see his blame in anything, CM in this case is not anything close to the he should have to get all the blame by angry players not getting what they want.. And i dont care if you dont understand my analogies
You could have just written it to an actual Codemasters employee but again do as you see fit, if you feel like this will change things do it..
@DinaatioSure i can understand people being annoyed but just raging senselessly is not gonna fix things, but thats just my view 🙂
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@Trekari I always keep my finger on the brake before it releases you. So far I’ve not had issue.
Trekari
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 I do the same with my pedals, but yesterday I missed T1 every time because the car just wouldn't slow down and rotate.

It actually felt like FFB/controls were not operating at 100% right away. By T2 and T3 everything felt appropriate. There isn't really any feedback I can feel when the tyres lock up, so I can't rule that out as a culprit, particularly with new tyres coming out of the pits.

I'd disable Pit Release Assist, except that I use those so I have time to take a quick drink during stops.

Forum Discussion

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

159 Replies

About F1® 23

Recent Discussions

F1 23 error code PM65539 persists beyond all solutions - can't use multiplayer

moza r5 disconnect

Failed to save

F1 2025 with Vr2 for Playstation5?

F1 23 Game save bug.