Hey drivers, The newest patch is now available across all platforms. You can find out what's in this patch in this thread here Need some help? Something in the patch not working the way it should? Tell us in this thread! -rephii

It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products.It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable.Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG.Red flags are still broken.Safety cars are still broken.You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it.Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized.You did neither.I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers.Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work.The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?!

Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't. This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

The F1 World tech changes has improved nothing. Granted, I'm now 4 seconds a lap faster than the AI instead of 6, but that's it. Shove the tech modifier up and you end up with noobs in rocket ships. Fast in straight lines but can't handle a fight. Only played it for 5 minutes and the problems were instantly visible, how the testers didn't notices this beggars belief. New year, same old story.Leaving the AI difficulty locked at 35% is what's holding the whole feature back. I can't believe it's just being left that way.Edit: It just feels like, for the past few years, when there's a fix needed, the minimum amount of effort possible is put into it, corners are cut, compromises are made, and it becomes just surface-level, papering over the cracks."But for this to work properly, you need to fix this aswell""Nah, just do this and leave it. It'll take too much time and effort, need to work on the eSports model anyway. Besides, this game is only for casuals now, they won't notice."That's how it feels.

This sums it up @Trekari wrote: It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products. It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable. Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG. Red flags are still broken. Safety cars are still broken. You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it. Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized. You did neither. I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers. Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work. The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?! This sums it up very well. It's awful. Not once was there an apology to the huge playerbase not being able to play for 2 months. They just don't care. They got the money and that's all they want anyway. I sincerely hope the sales continue to plummet and they get what they deserve. For the fact this is a racing game, it's incredible that all these FFB issues are still around and simply won't be patched. At least have the decency to offer refunds to those who are screwed by all these issues or offer an apology. We know that EA has never cared about their customers. F1 is a new low tho. [Edited] CM Edited post to clean things up to align with rules.

@Iceman038-NL wrote:Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

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QUALLENFISCH
New Traveler
2 years ago
@RobbyJr24 Not neccesarily. This leads to the fact that on some tracks when starting a lap in time trial, it is not possible to get the first turn right because there is no FFB and the car is "swimming", hence you get an invalidation. Feature should be optional.
RobbyJr24
2 years ago
@QUALLENFISCH wrote:
@RobbyJr24Not neccesarily. This leads to the fact that on some tracks when starting a lap in time trial, it is not possible to get the first turn right because there is no FFB and the car is "swimming", hence you get an invalidation. Feature should be optional.
In this case, it's bad, of course!
J-TyrrellF1
2 years ago
Totally agree
kismet8051
2 years ago
EA have done nothing of the sort. CM have merely released yet another bug ridden F1 Game, a pattern that repeats itself all the way back to the beginning of their involvement in making the F1 Series. For all that, I still buy the games, though not every year, and find it’s usually best to wait a few months for the usual round of bug fixes. After all that, it’s time to make a decision to purchase or not (i.e. can I live with the bugs that remain and won’t be fixed?) This is a strategy that has served me well up to now and I enjoy my purchases. I’m not an online player though, and don’t use a wheel so that means I avoid at least those couple of yearly bugfests. GP mode is usually where it’s at for me though I have ventured into a couple of career modes in previous titles.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@kismet8051 Not to mention wait a few months at discounted prices. It’s what I do with all games. Except this one because I’m in the fortunate position off it being gifted to me
kismet8051
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Lol, I did break my rule this year though and purchased it a few weeks after release, mainly down to people being thrilled with the new handling model. I haven’t even started playing F123 though, I probably will fire it up within the next few days starting off with the story mode. Perhaps by the time I’m done with that mode some of the other bothersome things will have been fixed, such as the volumetric fog which sounds absolutely awful at Bahrain which happens to be one of my favourite races.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@kismet8051 I did braking point at launch to get it out off the way. Not a single issue to be fair. But I think it depends on platform. PS5 is ok. Not had a single crash or freeze in 100 hours. The fog isn’t that bad. Only thing I found with it. Was when looking behind it takes a millisecond to go from clear to fog
vClumsyyy
2 years ago
Whatever you have done to the AI since the Beta is appalling. It’s like you can’t stop making changes just so you have some to ‘improve’ for the next game.

The AI are impossible to drive against. Start yourselves out.
Meza994
2 years ago
@vClumsyyy In what way? Do you feel they are unfair? Most people for now have rather said they have become better, more racy
Dinaatio
2 years ago
Man I wish my biggest worry was AI. Ffb and visual bugs are too big in themselves to have any strength to look deeper.

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