Hey drivers, The newest patch is now available across all platforms. You can find out what's in this patch in this thread here Need some help? Something in the patch not working the way it should? Tell us in this thread! -rephii

It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products.It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable.Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG.Red flags are still broken.Safety cars are still broken.You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it.Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized.You did neither.I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers.Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work.The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?!

Realistically I think apologies for game performance not matching people's expectations generally doesn't happen (have you ever seen one?) for two reasons:The bad PR would be huge. As in, look everyone, this game is so bad they even publicly apologised for it.If a product is admitted to be defective you're then getting into potentially tricky territory re. refunds.As far as I'm concerned nobody should expect one and it wouldn't make any difference if it happened anyway. Also, do you think anyone working on the game is happy that there are significant ongoing issues? Of course they aren't. This thread really isn't the right place to be discussing this though, as it's detracting from people trying to highlight new issues following the latest update.

The F1 World tech changes has improved nothing. Granted, I'm now 4 seconds a lap faster than the AI instead of 6, but that's it. Shove the tech modifier up and you end up with noobs in rocket ships. Fast in straight lines but can't handle a fight. Only played it for 5 minutes and the problems were instantly visible, how the testers didn't notices this beggars belief. New year, same old story.Leaving the AI difficulty locked at 35% is what's holding the whole feature back. I can't believe it's just being left that way.Edit: It just feels like, for the past few years, when there's a fix needed, the minimum amount of effort possible is put into it, corners are cut, compromises are made, and it becomes just surface-level, papering over the cracks."But for this to work properly, you need to fix this aswell""Nah, just do this and leave it. It'll take too much time and effort, need to work on the eSports model anyway. Besides, this game is only for casuals now, they won't notice."That's how it feels.

This sums it up @Trekari wrote: It's been almost two full months since release that a large percentage of your customers can't use FFB on their products. It's been two years since VR was 'implemented' in such a way as to be nearly unusable. Volumetric fog continues to make night races unplayable (fun fact, Bahrain at night was literally the FIRST RACE of F1 23, immediately showing this problem, and you people released the game anyway?). I'll say it again for those who need to hear it a second time: THE FIRST RACING EXPERIENCE OF THE GAME SHOWCASES THIS BUG. Red flags are still broken. Safety cars are still broken. You want to know why your sales are down year after year? It's because you're incompetent. You advertise new features that don't even work, and clearly don't do any testing of your own product before releasing it. Not once has anyone from EA apologized for the state of the game. People who value integrity would've delayed the game in the first place. People who simply have integrity would've at least apologized. You did neither. I look forward to watching your sales numbers plummet until the series has to be canceled and the license goes to someone who actually cares about F1, and their customers. Edit: One more thing - you took two weeks to fix the cockpit camera bug that YOU CAUSED. Other gaming companies would have shown respect to their customers by immediately implementing a hotfix patch to fix their own screwup, but not our good ol' EA buddies! Nothing lights a fire under your backsides. Not broken FFB, not bugs your own incompetence caused, not major "new" features that don't work. The only timeline you pay any attention to is your own convenience. To hell with those fools who actually pay your salary, eh! Those pesky customers should be grateful they get anything at all, am I right?! This sums it up very well. It's awful. Not once was there an apology to the huge playerbase not being able to play for 2 months. They just don't care. They got the money and that's all they want anyway. I sincerely hope the sales continue to plummet and they get what they deserve. For the fact this is a racing game, it's incredible that all these FFB issues are still around and simply won't be patched. At least have the decency to offer refunds to those who are screwed by all these issues or offer an apology. We know that EA has never cared about their customers. F1 is a new low tho. [Edited] CM Edited post to clean things up to align with rules.

@Iceman038-NL wrote:Only EA influence is MONETIZATION. Just look at the season pass. Where you normally would get around 10000 pitcoin on the free pass with less levels, now they give you 2500 in total on 50! Levels.This part isn't actually true. From the first year of Podium Pass (F1 2020) it has never been possible to earn enough pitcoins from the free tier to buy VIP access for the next. The model has always been that to be self-funding you'd need to buy VIP access to the first Podium Pass season to then be able to earn enough Pitcoins to buy VIP access to the following season, etc. I forget now whether the free/VIP Pitcoin availability was 2500/7500 or something else but at best is was 5000/5000 and definitely not 10000/0.

F1® 23 - Patch 1.09 Discussion Thread

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RobbyJr24
2 years ago
Reinstalled the game, verified the files, still no goals function.
Please, do something!
P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Dropping my two coins in:
* As an employee of software company, I understand the frustration with bugs in software. However, when you focus on bug fixing every time someone raises an issue, you'll never fix anything properly and you'll never improve anything, either. Pushing developers to work on new stuff every time someone complains about something has much more disruptive effect.
They must decide on priorities to move their software forward. However, I get the feeling that CM's priorities are pushed by EA to wrong direction and therefore proper fixes are scarce and new bugs are introduced.
* Re new bugs, I just got a weird one. After the race, game gave me error message that highlight reel was not created due to an error. I could see it in after-race summary, though. It just wasn't in Theatre menu. Quite odd as I didn't expect it to be available in "View highlights" in race summary menu, either. Even not sure if it is a new bug as it never happened before to me.
* Night races are still weird when I use cockpit view. Everything around halo and halo column is pixelated, with big squares, so it's blurry and distracting. Even with halo column off, pixelation happens around all elements on front of the car (antennas, etc.)
(I play on PC (Steam) with graphics set to Ultra High)
P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@vClumsyyy
I use AI set to 85-100 and I must say, I like it. AI drivers are fair, not diving in stupidly, wheel-to-wheel are much more enjoyable. And they don't give up easily.
Just finished Jeddah and I had nice few laps-long fight with Merc driver, especially in T1 and T2.

(I play on PC (Steam) with T150 wheel)
P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Trekari
I also use Pit Release assist as I am not bothered. And I also have to be on brake even before control is returned. But there few tracks when you don't need to care, e.g. Brazil or Zandvoort.
I guess it would much more fun to get control back before end of white line, otherwise engineer's comment about being careful when exiting pit lane is quite useless 😉
Trekari
2 years ago
@P4st3l1ak I agree.

I don't see why control can't be returned once you've left the Pit. The entry is when you lose control...it'd make more sense.
kismet8051
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14 I’m on PS5 so that’s encouraging.
ScarDuck14
Legend
2 years ago
@P4st3l1ak That highlights big has been in game since last game
Trekari
2 years ago
This video, while not "F1" related or directed at EA specifically, beautifully sums up the overall situation that EA has decided to place itself in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWdZhKFtxKg
The tl;dw version: Actually good games, like BG3, are causing some studios to 'panic' thinking that fans will expect a better product, instead of the cash-grab, bug-filled nonsense that some people continue to put out every year.
EA has released one patch every two weeks since launch, fixing a small handful of issues each time, for a game that released with a massive amount of inexcusable bugs. Some of these inexcusable bugs remain almost two months after launch, with no sign of urgency on being corrected.
Larian, publishers and developers of BG3, have released 3 patches since August 3rd, fixing (cumulatively) nearly one thousand bugs of various severity. Notably including two patches one day apart that each fixed a few hundred things. ONE DAY APART.
I know which company looks like they care, and which company I'd rather support. BG3 is likely to be the GOTY winner. F1 is going to be...just another forgettable entry in a list of yearly DLC failures.
Why not be more like Larian, EA?
P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ScarDuck14
Thanks for confirmation. This is the first time it happened to me so I guess it's an intermittent issue then. I wonder what is the trigger for this highlight problem, it cannot be something simple.
P4st3l1ak
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Trekari
This is an example of what developers should do. Set priorities, scrap useless features gamers don't even want and give players the experience they expect instead of maximising their profit.
And I liked BG3 early release, much better approach than closed betas. We could feed back info about game and pin-point problems and bugs so they were able to fix major issues prior official release date. And that's great because you have much, much larger pool of testers than company can afford to buy internally.
The profit will eventually come because gamers will share their experience that will attract more of them.

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