Question to the beta testers:Is the stutter/jitter bug when moving your head in VR finally 100% fixed in F1 2023? So as smooth as in other race games like Automobilista 2, Assetto Corsa, Dirt Rally 2 etc.? (so normal/how it should be while moving your head)Or is VR unusable in F1 2023 again? (same as 2022)Any feedback is welcome.

"EA didn't exactly say there was a problem with the first release did they..."They didn't say anything about it, they simply IGNORED all the comments about it but there clearly is a problem with it, the head movement is simply never smooth, even with 90fps locked with 4ms frametime, a 4090, everything on low, it still jitters in corners. Every serious VR player knows that and the whole community told EA about so THEY KNOW IT.So IF EA takes themselves seriously, then they will fix the issue of course. Their VR implementation of F1 22 was simply the worst of ALL sim racing titles, by far. Even much worse then ACC, with the 4090 I even got ACC running quite well.Sad that they now use NDA's even with their beta testers.

Doesn't make it less sad. We as VR users all want to know if it's finally fixed or not... IF it's on their agenda this time or not at all.Why so urgent? Since it's a break or make point for VR users. IF it's fixed, then I will buy F1 2023 and together with me many other VR racers, but if it's not fixed, then I won't buy it and together with my many VR racers too. I'm sure about that. It was the biggest disappointment in VR history.The lack of communication about this subject is really hurting, this issue has been brought up so many times at the F1 2022 forums and they didn't even take the time for 1 minute to give an official statement about it. I really don't get why.Their whole F1 2023 announcement is nonsense regarding VR now, because they also announced VR for F1 2022, but it was never usable.

@GuusHugo wrote:Doesn't make it less sad. We as VR users all want to know if it's finally fixed or not... IF it's on their agenda this time or not at all.Why so urgent? Since it's a break or make point for VR users. IF it's fixed, then I will buy F1 2023 and together with me many other VR racers, but if it's not fixed, then I won't buy it and together with my many VR racers too. I'm sure about that. It was the biggest disappointment in VR history.The lack of communication about this subject is really hurting, this issue has been brought up so many times at the F1 2022 forums and they didn't even take the time for 1 minute to give an official statement about it. I really don't get why.Their whole F1 2023 announcement is nonsense regarding VR now, because they also announced VR for F1 2022, but it was never usable.I think you need to stop asking the question because it's totally subjective and totally down to your setup as to whether it's 'fixed'.People post here daily with game crashes and issues that I can't replicate. The game is not broken, yet people cry that it is.I suspect the VR implementation will be similar. It may well be functional on the test / dev kit. At this point, it's "fixed". You will need to wait until release and query people with the same VR headset and similar PC spec to yourself as to what their experience of the VR implementation is. You're carrying butthurt about something you bought into for F1 22. It wasn't up to scratch for you and it looks like it won't be fixed. Why are you even considering purchasing F1 23?

"I think you need to stop asking the question because it's totally subjective and totally down to your setup as to whether it's 'fixed'."Nope. It's not totally subjective. There is jitter/stutter while moving your head for EVERY VR user. You can simply see it while driving ingame and looking into the corners, it's not smooth as in other VR titles.It's been tested with multiple HMD's and it still happens with a 4090/i127000K and with everything on low. But with 90fps locked/super low frametimes etc.It's the biggest issue of the game, since it's a VR breaking bug.So I'm not sure what you're talking about here. IF the issue is fixed, then I'll gladly buy the game so all VR users need to know of course IF it's on their agenda or not."It looks like it won't be fixed"?? where did you get that information?"I suspect the VR implementation will be similar"What's this assumption based on?"You will need to wait until release and query people with the same VR headset and similar PC spec to yourself as to what their experience of the VR implementation is. "I don't need to. I want to know it now, if this issue is on their agenda or not."People post here daily with game crashes and issues that I can't replicate. The game is not broken, yet people cry that it is."This has nothing to do with the issue that I mentioned.

Unfortunately VR is horrible!!The movement of the head bug, in all possible configurations.I hope this will be rectified in time !to be continued....

F1 2023 VR head movement jitter/stutter bug fixed or not?

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Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
@Stampede_251 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77let's imagine that instead of that vague useless line they said "fixed head tracking lag and stutter present when fps is below headset refresh rate" then OP and I and other VR players would maybe consider buying it. I'm going to make the bold prediction that it's not fixed. It's ok I love iRacing and would rather support that company instead of EA / Codemasters.
Errr, not sure if you missed that my post was from over a month ago? No need for 'bold predictions' now either since the game is out. Sadly this is in the 'not fixed' category by all reports.
Skymine180
3 years ago
F123 didnt fix the problem
Trekari
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
EA released a game with a main feature crippled by incompetence? Then they left it that way for a year and didn't fix it for their annual DLC release??

I'm shocked.
xogepobs0ril
3 years ago
@GuusHugo I played the game for 5 hours (under EA Play subscript.) on my Pimax 8K and tried any possible setting in OpenVR. I confirm the jtter issue moving the head which make the game not playable on VR. I will buy it only/if EA will fix that. Michele.
Nasty187
3 years ago
EA, I'm getting up there in age, and you continue to disappoint me decade after decade. I am the one who blasted the boards demanding VR, then you release it broken. You are either too inept to find a fix, or you're actually trolling the people that matter. A mouth breather couldn't tell the difference from input lag, to frame time inconsistencies, so don't give us that trash about "it's subjective". Maybe I put my money where my mouth is and hire a lawyer to contact F1/Liberty Media about your mishandling of this franchise?
EA, FIX THE G** D*** VR HEAD TRACKING!!!!
Stampede_251
3 years ago
@Nasty187 join us in iRacing open wheel. VR is incredibly good, and it's a proper simulator.

Short EA
Neomo
3 years ago
What do you expect from garbage, blurry, stuttered, 20 years old engine.
Nasty187
3 years ago
@Stampede_251 I already am. I am all over Formula A and the W13 in iRacing. 2500 hours in heavily modded Assetto Corsa (Gotta love Race Sim Studio's Formula Hybrid 23).

Both games I run in wide FOV Pimax. 144hz in iRacing, 120hz in Assetto Corsa, both with no reprojection. NO VR ISSUES.

If EA had me on QA this thread wouldn't exist. I have zero faith that EA actually cares about fixing the game as long as they meet their sales targets.

Sadly, if you want a BETTER VR Formula 1 experience with VR tech that ACTUALLY WORKS AS IT SHOULD, then F1 2023 is not for you. It's almost as if F1 23 is the Mario Kart of the F1 simulation world when put up against iRacing, AC and Rfactor Formula mods.

EA really can bring a gamer to depression.
Stampede_251
3 years ago
@Nasty187 lovely to hear! I love the W13 in iRacing. Great community too. Small but very skilled and committed group. I love the Race Sim Studio Formula Hybrid 23 too! Verstappen said that it's a great sim.

Yeah I'm on Nvidia RTX 4090, Reverb G2, 64 GB ram, 13600KF CPU, these run like absolute dream, like butter.

You have a good point about the QA - they just don't care. What I don't like is what this says about them as a company- they will lie to get sales. This is not VR support. I'm pretty sure this is not legal in the European Union, I will look into it. I'd like a refund for F1 22.

They are bringing a FIFA philosophy to simracing. The problem is that simracing is much closer to racing than FIFA on a gamepad is to playing football. They don't care. In the long term, the better product will win, and hopefully that means that the F1 rights go to someone who cares about building a good product.

Short EA, long iRacing and Kunos Simulazione

Let me know if you ever wanna practice together, Montreal is kicking my * this week :D
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
I think there's an important distinction to be made between testing to find there's a problem and then being able to rectify it. Beta tests and I'm sure internal testing have no difficulty doing the former.

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