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JesseNoord20's avatar
3 years ago

F1 23 Two Player Career AI, Connectivity Issues and glitches

Two Player Career, AI and Connectivity Issues

I am done with Two Player Career and tired of multiplayer in general due to multiple problems.

I have been driving 10 races in a 16 race calendar with a friend of mine on F1 23 on the PS5 and we've had some good fun driving against eachother. Furthermore we both have 100+ hours in the game in both singleplayer, multiplayer and thus also Two Player Career.

And there are some noticable problems that hinder us from continuing further in multiplayer and Two Player Career:

To start off with a more general issue I haven't seen being addressed so far, being the connection issues. I have always had around 350mb/s and have had no connectivity issues in neither F1 games nor other games in general. I'd consider my wifi as being very steady. So is my mate's. However in Multiplayer and especially visible in Two Player Career the connection has been horrible. Glitching cars, lag spikes and even to the point where I got overtaken in the first season of the Belgian GP in Two Player Career, twice, because of a lag spike. This while my I have zero connectivity issues in other games and never had any problems like these either with previous F1 games. This is really annoying as I get punished for quite literally nothing. There's nothing wrong with either of our internet. I don't know if there's a solution or if it is just down to EA/Codemaster servers, but I'd be glad to hear a solution if there is one.

Next is a quick gripe I have that I just would like to mention, and it is that I've had four mechanical failures in 10 races, once three times in a row. I don't know if this is a glitch or if this is because of my settings (highest possible) or if it is a mix of both but I don't feel like I should have to change my settings to make the game more playable. This ties a little bit into Red Flags too, where I have to change my settings to make the game more playable. Red Flags are still an issue in terms of AI driving around under Red Flags and some other glitches that I haven't directly experienced, but seen online.

Next, the AI in Two Player Career mode is absolute madness. Aside from the fact that they feel much, much, much different as oppose to their counterparts in Singleplayer, their aggressiveness is insane. They refuse to yield when I am clearly in front which has resulted in a lot of crashes and LOTS of broken chassis. This came to it's absolute limit when I crashed with Zhou while we were both entering the pit lane in Great Britain. It had started to rain which resulted in a lot of pitstops. I was ahead going into the pitlane but he was still next to me. Next thing I know he crashed into me which caused me to spin back out onto a wet track on dry tires and I had to drive around another lap with a broken chassis and front wing before being able to enter the pits to get wet tires. At the next round in Belgium, I was driving in P6 with Hamilton behind me. Hamilton was in battle with Bottas behind him. Because of the aggressiveness of the AI, I got rear-ended by Hamilton which caused me to lose the position to Hamilton while Bottas stayed behind me. That shouldn't be happening on the same AI level where I have no issues in My Team Career. Now I'd like to make it clear that there's inherently nothing wrong with AI being more aggressive. I, in fact, believe the AI in singleplayer is too passive. However this inconsistency combined with the overkill of aggressiveness and all-around stupidity and lack of trying to avoid a collision results in a worse experience in Two Player Career. It seems like EA forgot to update the behavior of the AI in Two Player Career while, at the same time, changing the difficulty of the AI.

Finally, at Monaco and Great Britain, we noticed a glitch after a mechanical failure of one of the players in a Two Player Career. After the retired player leaves the lobby, as soon as the player who still drives passes the retired player, AI seem to lose positions. This resulted in my friend lapping the entire field in Monaco every time he passed my retired car, while this resulted in me gaining three positions on Stroll, Alonso and Zhou in Great Britain after the other player left. This is certainly a glitch, which isn't all that bad considering the other player just needs to stay in the lobby, but on the other hand that results in the retired player's car standing at a marshall post for the remainder of the race causing a yellow flag in that part of the track.

I'm sorry if this seems too much like a rant, it is not what I'm trying to achieve. I'm trying to highlight problems that feel like easy fixes to make Two Player Career very fun. This has nothing to do with the fact that (Two Player) Career got left in the dust this year, although I do feel like there is a causality, but that is another discussion. Furthermore, I know that these are issues that have been touched on by the community in other posts but I do feel like I need to emphasize that these issues need to be fixed and I must admit I'm a bit disappointed they haven't been already by the first patch. Finally, if the aggressiveness seems like I'm bad at the game, I can confidently say I don't but I feel like that shouldn't be an issue, as I would assume if I experience these issues on my AI level, others would so too on their AI level, wether that is higher or lower than mine.

If there is anything that can be solved on my part, I'd be glad to hear it 🙂 I also have footage of everything that has happened in Great Britain and Belgium so if there's a desire I'd be glad to link it.

10 Replies

  • Hello,

    so me and my mate are currently stuck. 

    If we advance, it stays at waiting for player

    we tried everything but nothing works.

    is there a way to fix it ?


    besides that, i just read the whole story from jesse, and besides the glitches, we have the same problems

    game get stuck a lot of times..

    we have sometimes connection issues and we also have no problems with wifi, at azerbeidjan we could not even brake..

    but maybe the most annoying thing from all, besides the  game getting stuck is that the AI is waaaaaaay to aggressive, 

    in the beginning i didnt believe my cousin cause i was mostly in front, im a little better so level is to low for me, but once i was driving in the field and i had no idea what happend. They are just crashing in to you like you are not there

    wtf

    we dont want to start over, so i hope it can be fixed

  • Djuzzies's avatar
    Djuzzies
    2 years ago

    So @EA is there coming a reaction, cause i guess everybody have it like this, cause its just how it work

    main reason i bought this game is to play together with my cousin.

    and there is just no way to play this in a normal way, 5 mins ago i wanted to throw my controller into the tv

    AI is just racing like we are not there, even in training they do the most stupid things

  • Hi guys,

    I feel your anger and frustrations too. Don’t know what’s wrong with the ai but most of the times it looks like they don’t me and my friend driving aswel, we lost like 30 front wings in the whole season besides the qualification and practising sessions.

    Ea fix your * I almost regret the fact that I bought the game again this year but I had hope the problems would be fixed but unfortunately it is not.

  • Trekari's avatar
    Trekari
    Rising Hotshot
    2 years ago

    Calling out EA for not testing/recognizing or fixing these issues outside of what their paying customers have complained about now results in posts just getting deleted eh?

    Dear EA,

    If you spent as much time polishing your game and identifying and fixing the bugs as you do trying to stifle complaints about your failure to do so, the game would have a lot fewer complaints and you'd probably not be watching your sales numbers plummet each year by tens of millions of dollars.

    Oh, and since you'll probably just delete this message too: There's no excuse for poor cross-platform connectivity, when the entire backend is run BY YOU. And yes, like literally every other cross-platform player, this issue is present for me as well.

  • Hey bro, I'm having they dame issue in two player carreer mode, if he avances ir stays ay waiting for playera ando viceversa, were You able yo fix this?

  • IanM282's avatar
    IanM282
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    I’m reading more and more about connection issues and bugs in two player career and not one single reply or acknowledgment from anyone at EA to even say they will look into the matter.

    Yet again incredibly disappointing to say the least. Two player career is very popular with people who have spent their money on this game.

    EA at least acknowledge the complaints and let everyone know they are being looked into.

  • I'm still having this issue. Most notably, connection issues where a player in my 2-person career will be dropped and can only rejoin if both players quit back to the menu. This happens so frequently and randomly that there's no ability to comprehend how to lessen/fix the issue. I can also confirm the glitchy AI that will absolutely drive as if your not there. It's so aggressive/glitchy that it's completely ruined the game mode for me. I've been run down on the straight, run off the track, pinned against walls, rear ended, etc. 

    I have no idea why more people haven't spoken up about these problems. I really enjoy this game and playing it with my friends, but this is incredibly frustrating. 

  • Trekari's avatar
    Trekari
    Rising Hotshot
    2 years ago

    I was rammed from behind in a DRS zone by Ocon in Jeddah despite myself being at a high speed already. Punted me straight into the wall by hitting my back left quadrant like I didn't even exist.

    Two-player career. Horrible connection quality because of cross-platform failures, despite ~940Mbps upload and download. F1 2021 when we were both on PS4 did not have any connection problems.

    Still not a word from EA about this.

  • These issues are plaquing me and a friend of mine as well and two player career was for me the only motivation to play this game. It's unplayable. * EA, they can shove their next F1 games up their *.

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