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jcp11
2 years ago
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Frame Generation locked rtx 4090

12900k rtx 4090, gigabyte z690 master. I have DDU VGA and reinstalled latest NVidia driver. But I am unable to turn on frame generation it says it is locked. HDR is off so not sure what is going on...
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  • EA_Groguet's avatar
    EA_Groguet
    2 years ago

    Hey racers,

    We are sorry NVIDIA DLSS Frame Generation is not yet available. We want to ensure the best gameplay experience and our team is working hard alongside our partners to enable Frame Generation in an upcoming update.

    -Groguet

    I am going to mark this post as Accepted Solution to increase its visibility. However, the problem is not solved and it is being investigated

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dotazured
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

For those who want to enable DLSS-G/frame generation before it is officially re-added to the game can do so manually doing so by setting DLSS-G to true in hardware_settings_config.xml

<dlss_g enabled="true" />

You need to set Nvidia Reflex to "On" (not "On + Boost" as it currently seem to be broken and enable half rate V-Sync, or even quarter rate V-Sync)

0 = Off, 1 = On, 2 = On+Boost

<reflex mode="1" />

Frame generation will still be greyed out in the settings, but it will be fully functional* and generating pseudo frames.
*Potentially buggy in some scenarios. 🙂

Edit: I'd recommend to replace the nvngx_dlss.dll and nvngx_dlssg.dll that are bundled F1 23 and replace them both with version 3.1.13 (both available at Techpowerup).

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c6829615538f9c5
2 years ago
@dotazured Good idea, unfortunately without function.
At the beginning I was happy because the GPU and CPU load was reduced by 50%.
But in the curves it still looked strangely blurred.
A look at the framerate immediately reveals the cause.
Instead of 144 fps, it's now only half that (4090)

I've always had Boost off, because I immediately noticed that it causes the fps to drop a lot because it was implemented incorrectly.

Unfortunately, dlss_g enabled doesn't work either.
  • dotazured's avatar
    dotazured
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @c6829615538f9c53 Currently Nvidia Reflex is required for DLSS-G to be fully functional, and the "on+boost" setting is currently broken in F1 23 as I previously explained.

    In my case I have DLSS-G running and fully working when using DLSS and DLSS-G version 3.1.13, did you update the DLLs or are you using the bundled DLLs?

    If this doesn't work in your case, this might be an indication why they have chosen to not let users enable it.

    Anyway, the behaviour you are describing sounds like boost actually are enabled as that seem to erroneously using half-rate, or quarter rate V-sync, which will mean that you get either 72 or 36 fps if your monitor is normally running at 144Hz.

    Can you verify that you have Reflex set to 1 (On) and not 0 (Off) or 2 (On+Boost) <reflex mode="1" /> in hardware_settings_config.xml.

    You might also want to check whether vsync is true or false in hardware_settings_config.xml.

    The blur you are describing is not likely to be related to DLSS-G. It is more likely to be the anti-aliasing (TAA, DLAA) or the upscaler that you are using (DLSS, FSR2, XeSS) being the actual culprit regarding that matter.

    DLSS-G is "just" interpolating frames in-between real frames, DLSS is the tech upscaling the resolution of frames, it is two different technologies.

  • dotazured's avatar
    dotazured
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @c6829615538f9c53 Both nvngx_dlss.dll and nvngx_dlssg.dll version 3.1.13 are available at the usual place over at TechPowerUp otherwise DLSS at Nvidia's DLSS GitHub repo and DLSS-G can be sourced from the Nvidia Streamline SDK.

    Fingers crossed that swapping the DLLs solves the issue you are having! 🙂
  • c6829615538f9c5's avatar
    c6829615538f9c5
    2 years ago
    @dotazured
    After I updated the DLLs, the problem with the half frame rate disappeared. But the frame generation still doesn't work.
    I have an average of 144fps in the benchmark, sometimes a few fps more or less. The 144fps is a coincidence :-) Nothing to do with the 144Hz HDR1400 monitor :-)
    Whether I enable DLSS-G or not doesn't change the fps or the CPU or GPU load.
    Tried all possible options, including HDR off and on, full screen, fixed mode, etc.
    Unfortunately, no frame generation is active for me.
    Are you sure it really works for you? :-)

    Here is a link to my current settings and a screenshot of the benchmark:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/0l6b5kabhkgexqshzd0ae/h?dl=0&rlkey=be6k5oyglg1m0wjyitbdwxt5w

    Maybe you can compare it with your settings?

    Thanks
  • dotazured's avatar
    dotazured
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @c6829615538f9c53 wrote:
    @dotazured
    After I updated the DLLs, the problem with the half frame rate disappeared. But the frame generation still doesn't work.
    I have an average of 144fps in the benchmark, sometimes a few fps more or less. The 144fps is a coincidence :-) Nothing to do with the 144Hz HDR1400 monitor :-)
    Whether I enable DLSS-G or not doesn't change the fps or the CPU or GPU load.
    Tried all possible options, including HDR off and on, full screen, fixed mode, etc.
    Unfortunately, no frame generation is active for me.
    Are you sure it really works for you? :-)

    Here is a link to my current settings and a screenshot of the benchmark:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/0l6b5kabhkgexqshzd0ae/h?dl=0&rlkey=be6k5oyglg1m0wjyitbdwxt5w

    Maybe you can compare it with your settings?

    Thanks

    According to the config file you provided you have HDR enabled.

    <hdr mode="1" peakNits="1000" />

    Try closing the game and then setting "hdr mode" manually to 0.

    Other than that I can't see anything that would be a reason for concern.

    I assure you that it is working for me as I am able to get a significantly higher (and smooth) experience with every setting maxed out, including RT on high.

    But it isn't impossible that it is somewhat broken on certain hardware configurations.

    I think that it is pretty clear that there's a reason behind it being disabled for the time being.

    Edit: I have noticed that some settings might overwrite the DLSS-G setting and in some scenarios you would have to manually enable it in the config again.

  • mackanz72's avatar
    mackanz72
    Seasoned Novice
    2 years ago
    @dotazured What's your settings? Mind linking a picture of the config too?
    Cause it is not working. Max settings 4K i get 75'ish at DLAA, with or without the change you suggested. 125'ish with DLSS Quality.
  • GhastlyTT's avatar
    GhastlyTT
    2 years ago
    Forcing frame gen on in the xml doesn't work for me either. HDR is off, HAGS is on, and Reflex is on. Checked F122 and it's working there with the same settings. New dlss files did eliminate some dlss smearing when using DLAA which is nice, but I still prefer the clarity of no in-game AA at the highest DSR resolution.
  • dotazured's avatar
    dotazured
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    I have been playing around with the development versions of SL and DLSS-G for the last hour or so and got to a point where my game no longer started, after rechecking/re-validating the files I am no longer able to get DLSS-G working again. ☹️

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