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Santial2885
2 years ago

[PC] G923 Workaround for high intensity/noises FFB and Trueforce

Product: F1 23
Platform:Steam-PC
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Which area is the bug/glitch in? Single Player
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 A lot of PC users reports that using Logitech G923 have high intensity with vibrations and noises since patch 1.05
After a lot of testing and sort things out, we can conclude that the implementation of Trueforce (feature that didn't work before the patch) was causing the issue, and no matter what setting is tweaked, Trueforce was working always at 100% of intensity.

Tested Here: Intense vibrations testing and here "Whirring" noise 

The behaviour of the issue: as soon the game launches, it overrides the Trueforce settings of GHUB, making it work always at 100%, without the possibility to tune it down.

Currently, i'm using G-HUB version: 2023.5.418755
Wheel Firmware: 139.1.49

Step 1 - Choose whatever settings you like the most in GHUB. (the image below, shows the settings that i feel most confortable and smooth)

The only things i've changed, is the operating range to 320º (choose whatever range is confortable to you)

Torque at 70

Audio Effects at 20

Step 2 - Launch the game as usual and set all the FFB settings in-game at default values

(you can change the operating range that is more confortable to you)

Step 3 - ALT+TAB to GHub, and change any trueforce value (1 point on torque or audio effects should work). Once you change the value, Ghub seems to take control of Trueforce again, with the settings you have chosen there. (instead of in-game trueforce, that seems to work always at 100%)

Step 4 - ALT+TAB to the game again, and play normally, and you can see that the intensity force of the wheel, and the vibrations (mostly on curbs) matches with the settings you have chosen in GHub.

IMPORTANT: This is not a fix, is just a workaround to moderate Trueforce intensity. YOU ONLY NEED (AND MUST) REPRODUCE STEP 3 EVERYTIME YOU LAUNCH THE GAME

This workaround is tested only on PC, Steam version, and works everytime. Didn't test it on EA App, but should work there too.

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  • j33ndm's avatar
    j33ndm
    2 years ago

    I have this issue on my Logitech G pro wheel on PS5. It makes a horrible grinding noise constantly in multiplayer lobbies. It's fine in time trial and grand prix, which is strange. But unplayable in mulitplayer lobbies, sounds and feels like it's going to destroy the DD wheel base. Please fix this ASAP 

  • Tor_Halvorsen74's avatar
    Tor_Halvorsen74
    2 years ago

    I did some testing tonight to see when this happens.

    I could replicate this happening even after ps5 restart when I started a lobby and loaded a setup file in that lobby.

    When I started driving the issue was there.

    the issue start when the car is out of the pitlane, when you take control of the car.

    The vibrations from the wheel goes away if I stop to car, as long as the car is not rolling the vibrations are not there. And if I turn the sound volume of the game off the vibrations goes away.

    However I was able to bypass the issue of I did not use the old lobby setup .

    Hope this can help to solve the issue!

  • ERSF1LEAGUES's avatar
    ERSF1LEAGUES
    2 years ago

    "Okay, thank you. I will try that when I start another lobby with my racing league, and if the problem occurs again. I am very curious to see what happens if I turn off the sound, whether it will be resolved.

    Best regards,

    Jordi
    ERS Racing League"

  • Tor_Halvorsen74's avatar
    Tor_Halvorsen74
    2 years ago

    Turning sound of will only remove vibrations, driving without sound is not an option for me. 

    It was more of an informative thing for ea to find a solution.

  • SteveJackson's avatar
    SteveJackson
    Hero (Retired)
    2 years ago
    @Tor_Halvorsen74 wrote:

    I did some testing tonight to see when this happens.

    I could replicate this happening even after ps5 restart when I started a lobby and loaded a setup file in that lobby.

    When I started driving the issue was there.

    the issue start when the car is out of the pitlane, when you take control of the car.

    The vibrations from the wheel goes away if I stop to car, as long as the car is not rolling the vibrations are not there. And if I turn the sound volume of the game off the vibrations goes away.

    However I was able to bypass the issue of I did not use the old lobby setup .

    Hope this can help to solve the issue!

    Sounds like the audio source is corrupting the FFB. Or the game is using the sound output for FFB input. Buttkickers worked in this way, IDK if that's how FFB drivers work, it's just an assumption. But effectively, the FFB 'signal' would be a kind of waveform?

    AFAIK Trueforce was removed in an earlier patch (1.07) https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-Bug-Reports/F1-23-Logitech-G923-not-working-very-low-FFB/td-p/12653677

    @EA_Groguet 

  • ERSF1LEAGUES's avatar
    ERSF1LEAGUES
    2 years ago
    @SteveJackson wrote:
    @Tor_Halvorsen74 wrote:

    I did some testing tonight to see when this happens.

    I could replicate this happening even after ps5 restart when I started a lobby and loaded a setup file in that lobby.

    When I started driving the issue was there.

    the issue start when the car is out of the pitlane, when you take control of the car.

    The vibrations from the wheel goes away if I stop to car, as long as the car is not rolling the vibrations are not there. And if I turn the sound volume of the game off the vibrations goes away.

    However I was able to bypass the issue of I did not use the old lobby setup .

    Hope this can help to solve the issue!

    Sounds like the audio source is corrupting the FFB. Or the game is using the sound output for FFB input. Buttkickers worked in this way, IDK if that's how FFB drivers work, it's just an assumption. But effectively, the FFB 'signal' would be a kind of waveform?

    AFAIK Trueforce was removed in an earlier patch (1.07) https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-Bug-Reports/F1-23-Logitech-G923-not-working-very-low-FFB/td-p/12653677

    @EA_Groguet 

    Ok so if i turn option 2 to zero the strange ffb vibrations are gone. I think ea is now know how they can solve the problem. Unfortunately EA is not reacting at messages 

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