Re: F1 23 Logitech G923 not working / very low FFB

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@lpartymartyl wrote:
@SteveJacksonPlease stop advising this, if you actually read the comments and stoped ignoring them then you would understand it’s a game issue not a firmware issue.

The problem is with the game and EA have said that themselves and they are working with Logitech to resolve the issue.

So for people with the issue, unfortunate you will just have to be patient and wait for an update.

There is no fix a user can do at this time.

Only unplugging and plugging back in but that doesn’t fix the force feedback only the actual wheel and pedals working.

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I've said repeatedly now that I stand by the advice. Update the wheel.

It's like you think that firmware is something bad. I'm sorry it's awkward for those that don't have a PC / claim it works everywhere else. The firmware isn't changed unless it's an overall benefit - I don't understand why you would wait for an issue to change it.

You only have to look here at the number of issues that are being resolved by a combination or firmware and / or drivers. 

I'm not saying it's not a game issue, but I'm fairly certain that this will be resolved in a similar fashion.

ALL users read these threads to solve issues. You can plug a G923 into a PC and not install GHub, not update firmware. But then if you post a bug because you haven't done this step then it creates noise on the forum and detracts from the actual issues. Plus, some fixes may not actually work if you don't do this as a prerequisite. You can buy a "new old stock" wheel for your console, sans updates.

It's a bit meta to hate on the game series or the developer.

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@SteveJackson wrote:

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@lpartymartyl wrote:
@SteveJacksonPlease stop advising this, if you actually read the comments and stoped ignoring them then you would understand it’s a game issue not a firmware issue.

The problem is with the game and EA have said that themselves and they are working with Logitech to resolve the issue.

So for people with the issue, unfortunate you will just have to be patient and wait for an update.

There is no fix a user can do at this time.

Only unplugging and plugging back in but that doesn’t fix the force feedback only the actual wheel and pedals working.

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I've said repeatedly now that I stand by the advice. Update the wheel.

It's like you think that firmware is something bad. I'm sorry it's awkward for those that don't have a PC / claim it works everywhere else. The firmware isn't changed unless it's an overall benefit - I don't understand why you would wait for an issue to change it.

You only have to look here at the number of issues that are being resolved by a combination or firmware and / or drivers. 

I'm not saying it's not a game issue, but I'm fairly certain that this will be resolved in a similar fashion.

ALL users read these threads to solve issues. You can plug a G923 into a PC and not install GHub, not update firmware. But then if you post a bug because you haven't done this step then it creates noise on the forum and detracts from the actual issues. Plus, some fixes may not actually work if you don't do this as a prerequisite. You can buy a "new old stock" wheel for your console, sans updates.

It's a bit meta to hate on the game series or the developer.

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Just want to clear up some things. I’ve updated my g923 via Logitech g hub to the latest available firmware, but no luck. The wheel still loses all ffb as well as pedals at times and even if it does work after restarting the wheel the ffb is practically non existent. First 20 degrees or so of rotation feels absurdly mushy and unresponsive, past that point you can feel the ffb kick in a bit more but that initial turn in is still horrific. I get where you’re coming from with the whole update your wheels to ensure it’s not on your end, but I don’t think it’s on any of our ends, clearly an issue with how the game feeds info to the Logitech wheel bases

Imagine paying for the Champions Edition just to play 3 days early,  then when you go to play the wheel you race with is unusable.  I believe that EA should refund us the difference of the Champions Edition for not making sure things were playable for everyone on release.   STILL WAITING ON A FIX!!!!

Same problem. Unplayable game right now. Crazy that this hasn't been fixed before game release

Champ. I have plugged my 923 into my computer and looked in GHub. Guess what, firmware up to date, Xbox up to date, game up to date. Game is broken and it’s to be fixed as the replies above say. Time to eat your words.

An update has not fixed my issue. 

I can get it to work by disconnecting then connecting g923 on Xbox while the game is running but still no ffb. 

so there clearly is a problem thanks for the advice but it hasn’t helped. Is there anyone looking at this? Clearly a lot having exactly same problems. 

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@Blackbird201050 wrote:

An update has not fixed my issue. 

I can get it to work by disconnecting then connecting g923 on Xbox while the game is running but still no ffb. 

so there clearly is a problem thanks for the advice but it hasn’t helped. Is there anyone looking at this? Clearly a lot having exactly same problems. 

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If you read the thread then the advice is clear. Always update the wheel and await the patch (the patch notes may again say that wheel update is required). 

Options to push hotfixes are easier on PC but it is better to get as many issues together in one patch and patch submission approval from Sony and Microsoft is not under EA control.

Sorry to dampen enthusiasm, but the standard disclaimer is that "upcoming patch" does not mean the next patch but literally an upcoming patch.

A thing to remember is no-one is doing this on purpose and other parties are involved.

Finally it is clear that it is being worked on. It is not always the efforts or one team but a process of feedback and testing.

@SteveJacksonWhy do you seem to want to be the guy who talks down to everyone here? What a contribution... obviously everyone here is excited to play a game they bought and paid extra for to play early.. your comments I've seen here have brought absolutely zero value to solving this problem.. it seems you just want to make yourself feel better by being a "that guy" .. just remember, nobody likes "that guy.." .. my mom taught me if I don't have something nice to say don't say nothing at all. You may not realize it.. so I'll enlighten you.. you come off very condescending... 

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@NormBash84 wrote:

@SteveJacksonWhy do you seem to want to be the guy who talks down to everyone here? What a contribution... obviously everyone here is excited to play a game they bought and paid extra for to play early.. your comments I've seen here have brought absolutely zero value to solving this problem.. it seems you just want to make yourself feel better by being a "that guy" .. just remember, nobody likes "that guy.." .. my mom taught me if I don't have some nice to say don't say nothing at all. You may not realize it.. so I'll enlighten you.. you come off very condescending... 

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Sorry you feel that way, but it’s tiresome reading rants, they’re not qualitative.

I get you feel a bit deprived of something, after all it is basic functionality, but it is what it is. 

If there were more qualitative feedback amongst the noise it would be great. 

Console yourself that someone IS reading your bile or your lack of detail or your rant and trying to piece together a picture of what is actually going on. 

I must stress it’s not the majority, the majority are trying to help (self included) but if people are only going to kick off about how I interact then that’s what is attracting comment. I’m broad shouldered enough to realise what is happening but if people feel the need to speak plainly, then I can respond plainly. 

So, once again, I’m sorry you feel this way. Perhaps you don’t like my response to your responses on this issue but check my post history.

Thanks.

Sorry ur gonna be disappointed. Still not fixed and it won’t be. Ea has no intention to release another patch after the one on release. That only fixed the lower g29 and g920. 

@SteveJacksonI find it odd you feel you need to reply to "rants".. if you too have nothing to contribute.. or you could just be civil and not have a condescending undertone to your replies. If you can help. Chime in. If not, well.. like my mom said.. have a great day man. Hopefully things get easier on your mental.  That way you don't feel the need to reply with nothing to help.. lastly these rants you speak of, are consumers that didn't get what they paid for.  So I completely understand wanting to vent a little. Unlike a remark to a consumer that doesn't help. Just make the unnecessary non-helpful commenter feel better about themselves...  

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@ha6hk3w77mwj wrote:
@SteveJacksonIt never seize to amaze me how you “champions” stick up for EA even tho it’s clear to everyone that they messed up releasing a broken piece of * with bugs that where present in the beta. What’s even the point of an open beta if you don’t fix the bugs? No gamer with a G923 or G Pro is able to play the game they paid for because the force feedback doesn’t work. Get of your high horse

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It's my personal opinion that the open beta is too close to release to really catch anything but absolute showstoppers. Not my call.

There are other open issues that are being tracked against the Logitech wheels, so it's not straightforward. These are joint issues. Not solely within EA control.

I'm not on a high horse. But the fact is that there are too many open Logitech G* FFB threads, there is not enough moderation and there is too much noise. I try to advise, but moderating is beyond my remit.

Don't know for example how many times people have been advised to update the wheels and not to use rest/snooze/quick resume modes on consoles.

It's very easy to be critical. I'm not a programmer, but I take ownership of configuring my device to work. Like it or not, consoles are like cut-down custom PCs these days.

The G923 and G Pro wheels are not finished product when you buy them. The option of updating for future compatibility is both a benefit and a hazard.

@RVladimiro F1 22 had trueforce support.

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@RVladimiro wrote:
@ha6hk3w77mwjI have a Logitech G923 and I'm affected by all of these issues but, for what is worth, it's important to notice the differences. F1 22 did not support Trueforce and F1 23 does support Trueforce. Of all the racing games I played on Xbox only Dirt Rally 2.0 and F1 23 fully support the capabilities of the G923 wheel like all the buttons, lights and (hopefully) improved FFB.

All of this is to say that the fact that it works in F1 22 doesn't mean much in F1 23. It's a completely new implementation of the wheel that is obviously bringing new problems. It's not a question of putting the partial blame on Logitech because 1) it is a new implementation and 2) Logitech is in fact working with EA/CM to solve the issue and has even delivered a patch that will be available in a future F1 23 patch.

I'm not defending anyone, I'm upset with all of this as much as you are and would happily live without people saying I need to update the firmware of a wheel that is fully updated. I'm just setting the record straight so we are all on the same page.

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As I’ve repeated more than once the advice to update the wheel is sound. I stand by it. 

I’m not claiming it will fix this issue. I asked to ensure people following the thread had done it - it’s a first step BEFORE posting a bug, have you done all you can to ensure it’s not on your end?

Also as I’ve repeated, others read the thread seeking answers. For the amount of people that haven’t considered these steps or aren’t even aware that they are possible, I repeat the advice.

Posters from inside CM/EA are offering the same advice, update your wheel, await the patch. 

It’s clear that some people clearly can’t grasp that and therefore it’s crossfire from the issue that some people want to take issue with me for some reason. 

I’ve only ever given advice that is helpful, I’m not trying to mislead anyone or obfuscate any issues - I speak my mind. 

Out.