Thrustmaster T300 "numb" ffb
Product: F1 23 Platform:PlayStation 5 Digital Edition Please specify your platform model. Sony PlayStation 5 Digital Edition Summarize your bug After quite a few laps wheel ffb loses most of its f...
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@Josu_11011 wrote:What I can assure you is that it is not a problem of overheating, that's for sure. I've been testing it now and the temperature of the room is very low, the steering wheel fan is normal and it's not generating heat
Do you understand that what you're experiencing exactly matches what the wheel is specifically designed to do when it gets too hot? I get that you want performance to be better but I'm sorry I really don't think you've proved what you think you have. Note that as per the following post earlier in this thread it appears that changes to the in-game force feedback will make this occur more easily than with last year's game:
Possibly trying using a vacuum cleaner to remove dust from your wheel could help, although I'll be honest I suspect that it won't.
@Ultrasonic_77Hi Ultrasonic, I’d appreciate your thoughts on my findings this afternoon. I’m on a TX . As a test, I lowered my FFB to 35 (from 65) with wheel damper on 1 - to eradicate any possibility of the wheel overheating. I then drove a practice, qualy and 35% race - total driving time approx 1hr 20 - before the usual glitch kicked in and all FFB disappeared entirely. With these settings the wheel can be turned with a finger, obviously making driving ridiculous but certainly protecting the base from any potential overheating. Having tested it I would say that 55 FFB would be reflective of racing on F1 ‘22. As many others will tell you, I never had the slightest issues with FFB on that game, nor on Dirt Rally or any other games which put considerably more force through the wheel. It is also worth nothing that quitting the game and reloading immediately resets FFB to normal. It really could not be more obvious that the issue does not lie with the TX/T300 overheating. We need to ensure EA are aware of this and don’t think the issue lies with Thrustmaster.
@timinator2014 wrote:It really could not be more obvious that the issue does not lie with the TX/T300 overheating. We need to ensure EA are aware of this and don’t think the issue lies with Thrustmaster.
I don't agree on the part in bold as honestly it still sounds like this. It just takes longer to happen when the FFB strength is reduced. There is a physical explanation for it this way that 100% fits with how it varies with FFB strength that I'm honestly struggling to see any logical way that the game software could have the same effect?
However, if the game is causing this at very low FFB strength settings as you describe then it may be that the FFB itself needs looking at. I will check the discussion here is on the team's radar. I will say that I suspect it must only be a few people affected though or this forum would have a lot more complaints about this. Obviously that isn't of consolation if you're someone that is having an issue though ☹️.
- @Ultrasonic_77 Hi again, thanks for getting back to me. I understand it may seem odd that the game software could cause this issue, however I really have gone through a logical process of elimination - comparing it to F1 ‘22 etc - and there is simply no way that the wheel is overheating. Another clue is in the fact that it happens around the same time - approx 1 to 2 hours into racing - regardless of feedback level or how much actual on track running has occurred. Also, I think from what I’ve read on the forum that the issue is relatively commonplace - my friend I race with every night (we’re on verge of giving up 🙄) has exactly the same problem - we both “glitched” within seconds of each other a couple of nights ago. No option but to quit the race. Tonight we are going to try reloading the game after every gave to see if that fixes the issue.
Thanks again for your efforts, I trust EA will get this sorted/patched before we finally give up! 😣
@timinator2014 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77Hi again, thanks for getting back to me. I understand it may seem odd that the game software could cause this issue, however I really have gone through a logical process of elimination - comparing it to F1 ‘22 etc - and there is simply no way that the wheel is overheating. Another clue is in the fact that it happens around the same time - approx 1 to 2 hours into racing - regardless of feedback level or how much actual on track running has occurred. Also, I think from what I’ve read on the forum that the issue is relatively commonplace - my friend I race with every night (we’re on verge of giving up 🙄) has exactly the same problem - we both “glitched” within seconds of each other a couple of nights ago. No option but to quit the race. Tonight we are going to try reloading the game after every gave to see if that fixes the issue.
Thanks again for your efforts, I trust EA will get this sorted/patched before we finally give up! 😣Others have said they can drive for longer with the FFB level reduced. If you really find it makes no difference then that's different and more confusing. I'd still honestly put money on there fundamentally being a hardware explanation though.
The more specifics anyone can give in this thread the better in terms of trying to help make progress on this.
- @Ultrasonic_77 Thanks. We could drive on 0 FFB and I’m sure it would still happen. There’s obviously a glitch somewhere in the communication between the game and the wheel that wasn’t present in F1 ‘22. Given the truly appalling state of F1 ‘23 upon release, I think I know where the blame lies. Anyway, not your fault and thanks again for doing what you can to help.
I'm sorry but suggesting people turn FFB down low on wheels that they've paid a lot of money for purely for the FFB capabilities actually blows my mind.
We shouldn't have to turn it down to 10 or 20 strength to finish a 5 lap race with FFB, thats a joke of a situation.
People have repeatedly said it works fine on other games and even F1 22 but you're insisting its still heat...why?! It almost feels like we're being ignored now when we provide details about what is happening in order to avoid admitting its a fault with the game.
You've deflected the possibility that it could be the game or looked for something else to blame at every chance you've had, just admit it might be the game! no wonder people on here are getting frustrated.People have said from release day that FFB is bugged yet we've been told its firmware, heat or even our settings to deflect the blame away from the game itself.
Besides the problems with FFB look at how many bugs there are! maybe there's a chance FFB is one of those bugs too ay? Just a thought.
It would be better if you told us to sit tight for the patch than tell us it's our hardware causing the issue, that's all we ask.
I also can't believe they're basically telling us to run low ffb on wheels we bought. Do they think that we're lying but all the other issues isn't lies? Bit * from EA/codies
@carperson488
Yeh I really don't get it mate, we have got people on here that genuinely wanna help us don't get me wrong cause there are some great mods on here, but lately it really feels like those replying just want to be right no matter what in order to deflect from the games poor state/launch and it taking the blame.I'm not even exaggerating when i say this is one of the worst launched games I've experienced in my 25 years of gaming.
The game has so many game breaking bugs yet a few are acting like FFB isn't bugged in game too, baffling.
- @matty0blobber Absolutely, well said mate
@Ultrasonic_77 I’m going to counter your point with my own experience woth the game, I play on Series X with a Thrustmaster TS-XW on firmware 8.07 in a nice ventilated room with AC on, ambient temperature around 19 Celsius, 66F if I’m not mistaken, the Fan is always on at full speed, overall FFB 75% in the control panel and 50% in the game, so there isn’t a single question of overheating on my part, I play full 2 hour races and my longest session in F1 22 was 7 hours or so, with no loss or fade to the FFB at all.
In F1 23 on the other hand, after 1 hour and 40 minutes on just staying in the game, not gameplay, if I stay 1 hour and 35 minutes on the start screen then go into any game mode, after 5 minute the FFB cuts out completly, I could be mid corner, with the wheel having a heavy feeling then all off a sudden it goes numb, like I just unplugged it and ZERO resistance by the base.
I have to quit the game and boot back up or unplug/reconnect the wheel for the FFB to come back on, but after another 1 hour and 40
minute it will cut out again, regardless if I play the game or just sit in the menus.
Just for reference I’m tested the wheel in Forza M7, 3 hours long endurance race with FFB at 65% in game, no fade, no cut, ZERO ISSUES.
There are multiple people on here that have reported the issue, most on Thrustmaster wheels, but I’ve seen some on Logitech and Fanatec, and a lot seem to be on Xbox, but PC and PS seem to be affected, that can’t be a wheel issue.
Mods have been blaming firmware being out of date or overheating issues, but clearly in my case that isn’t the cause and I’m 100% sure this isn’t the case for anyone reporting this issues, please pass this along to the devs, this is an issue with the game not the wheels or end user error, this needs to be fixed ASAP.
Thank you!
- @mitzathe1 Very well explained mate, couldn’t be clearer.
- @mitzathe1 I'm really not sure I've posted anything for you to 'counter' but your observation about issues after just having the wheel on but in the menu is intriguing and may help identify an issue. Thanks for the detail.
Counter may have been a bit harsh, the point i was trying to make is that overheating would not cause a sudden loss of FFB, but grandual fade then loss and most people have the issue with a sudden loss.
Happy to help tho, the game is super fun to drive this year and I hope this gets fixed fast so everyone can enjoy the fantastic work Codemasters have done!
@Ultrasonic_77 do you know if there is any news about this?
@Josu_11011 wrote:@Ultrasonic_77 do you know if there is any news about this?
Afraid not.
A question to all of you who have this problem: doesn't it happen to you that the loss of ffb only occurs, or at least it occurs earlier in certain circuits?
For example, on circuits like Monza or Imola I can play for hours without any problem, or at least the loss of ffb is minimal, I'm not sure if some ffb is lost or not. But for example in circuits like Barcelona at 5-6 laps the ffb is lost.
Perhaps this information can help solve the problem.
- @Josu_11011 I’m almost convinced it’s tyre wear… certainly sounds like it. If your tires are 30% plus worn and over 100 degrees you get a horrible light feeling through the wheel
- @timinator2014 there is no tyre wear in time trial….
- @Josu_11011 Ah sorry I think you mentioned that before. I never do time trial! I have to say that I only have the problem where you lose 100% FFB, I never experienced the slight drop off apart from the feeling from tyre wear
- @timinator2014 I've found that hitting sausage curbs or curbs in general are often the cause of the 100% dropout of FFB, its as if big surges of FFB cause it to shut off because the game can't handle it.
Needs more testing though.
But at this point its 100% not overheating (despite what them lot prior say) because people are losing their FFB on the first laps in the first race when playing. - @matty0blobber I have also noticed about the curbs and also when making strong corrections
@Josu_11011yeh big curbs hits, crashes or even hard turns and corrections are causing it to shut off completely, thats even within the first lap of the first race when the wheel has just been turned on.
Yes there are some circuit where the problema is more evident
The problem still persists with the last update.
@EA_Mai I mention you for mentioning someone from the Staff.
There are many people who would like to know if you are working on this or if you are aware of this problem... because it has been almost a month since the launch of the game and it is not even noted in the community issues post
@EA_Mai any update?
