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f1 2024 PSvr2
Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories...
Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories in the world and at the forefront of launches and developments, etc. It's almost like the space industry works (laughs). What is your opinion about this? Should the game come with the possibility of PSVR2? If it doesn't come at launch, is it due to an update?
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As for usage on GT7… It’s the game Sony Showcased for it. To appeal to and get those who Already bought millions of copies before PSVR2 to buy it. It’s by far the best game and most popular game that has it. Concurrent players off GT7 will be way higher than F1 24 in 3 months.
","body@stringLength":"654","rawBody":"@Neil_RS60Because market share is what will drive publishers like EA to add support to their games. Simply If the margins are there they will add it. No AAA games are adding support. Also popular AA games don’t have it.
As for usage on GT7… It’s the game Sony Showcased for it. To appeal to and get those who Already bought millions of copies before PSVR2 to buy it. It’s by far the best game and most popular game that has it. Concurrent players off GT7 will be way higher than F1 24 in 3 months.
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Trial boards - PS players are 51% across all the boards on average, rest split among XB and PC, so maybe the PSVR2 userbase is > or = to the PC VR base? And probably harder to code for the multiple PC variations than PS single variant.
So maybe dump the PC VR users (as they supposedly would rather tripple screen anyway😉) and get some PS buzz going?
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So maybe dump the PC VR users (as they supposedly would rather tripple screen anyway😉) and get some PS buzz going?
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This video is from a top tier sim racer and may be off some interest as to why he doesn’t use VR and prefers single screen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-xXL2MPoPoo
Also one million psvr2 per 70 million PS5s. Doesn’t matter that half play on PS. Vr is a tiny minority of PS player base 1 in 70 . Whereas PC compatible headsets have sold millions upon millions more than PSVR2.
Also Sony are working on making PSVR2 compatible with PC now in a desperate hope off selling more
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This video is from a top tier sim racer and may be off some interest as to why he doesn’t use VR and prefers single screen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-xXL2MPoPoo
Also one million psvr2 per 70 million PS5s. Doesn’t matter that half play on PS. Vr is a tiny minority of PS player base 1 in 70 . Whereas PC compatible headsets have sold millions upon millions more than PSVR2.
Also Sony are working on making PSVR2 compatible with PC now in a desperate hope off selling more
","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5269655"},"isEscalated":null,"postTime":"2024-05-03T21:26:45.446+01:00","parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8330874"}},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8330876":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:8330876","revisionNum":1,"uid":8330876,"depth":11,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-24-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8330804"},"subject":"Re: f1 2024 PSvr2","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8330876"},"body":"@ScarDuck14 Interesting points but personal preferences as well. I have a rig w shifter, handbrake etc, and VR not a major obstacle for use/enjoyment of those items.
And not re-debating the general market share points you make (often). Just noting that
1) F1 PC VR users are likely in the minority of PC users based on those sorts of preferences you and others note, and much lower than overall % of PC VR sales
2) F1 PS players are half the active TT userbase w PC and XB making up the rest (XB the smallest or PC?)
3) PSVR2 penetration is likely much higher to racing gamers than the overall 8% average unit sales based on GT7 users comments and league particpation
So its possible, (even likely?) that the PS5 F1 player base already owning a PSVR2 is larger than the F1 PC VR player base.
Would PSVR2 support drive more usage? My take is yes. Would it be cheaper to develop/support? Possibly. WIll Sony get its act together on PS VR? Unfortunately not looking likely
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","body@stringLength":"1144","rawBody":"@ScarDuck14 Interesting points but personal preferences as well. I have a rig w shifter, handbrake etc, and VR not a major obstacle for use/enjoyment of those items.
And not re-debating the general market share points you make (often). Just noting that
1) F1 PC VR users are likely in the minority of PC users based on those sorts of preferences you and others note, and much lower than overall % of PC VR sales
2) F1 PS players are half the active TT userbase w PC and XB making up the rest (XB the smallest or PC?)
3) PSVR2 penetration is likely much higher to racing gamers than the overall 8% average unit sales based on GT7 users comments and league particpation
So its possible, (even likely?) that the PS5 F1 player base already owning a PSVR2 is larger than the F1 PC VR player base.
Would PSVR2 support drive more usage? My take is yes. Would it be cheaper to develop/support? Possibly. WIll Sony get its act together on PS VR? Unfortunately not looking likely
🙏
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