Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories in the world and at the forefront of launches and developments, etc. It's almost like the space industry works (laughs). What is your opinion about this? Should the game come with the possibility of PSVR2? If it doesn't come at launch, is it due to an update?

@TheRagebeard wrote:@SteveJackson "And I am obviously in a shocking subset who would rather the game was better than supported VR in any fashion!" you are not part of a shocking subset. 95%+ of the people who buy this game would prefer a better overall experience to having VR capabilities. The average consumer who's going to buy this game not only doesn't have VR they don't even have a wheel.Many people overlook the fact that as "hardcore" players who spent a bunch on money on a sim racing setup we tend to normalize that "hardcoreness" both because we hang around this board with other hardcore sim racers and our IRL friends tend to skew towards hardcore sim racing. As you mention the population as a whole is a bunch on controller Charlies who save they're money for other interests or to diversify their collection of games.TLDR: I completely agree with you, throw VR in throw and focus on making a decent game.I was being a little facetious.The point is twofold, even those that buy VR don’t always want to use it for racing. So it does seem that 1.1% may be a generous figure. And @mariohomoh is correct, if resources are tight VR is the last thing to develop.

@superhoops82 wrote:@Cpayne32 I imagine the number of PSVR2 players buying F124 if it supported the headset would be a fair bit higher than that. Certainly at least 100,000 if you align it to number of RE4 remake players playing that game in VR. I imagine there is less uptake of individual horror games in VR, firstly because they are scary as hell on VR (from personal opinion) and secondly because there is a large selection of games like that already. F124 only has GT7 to compete against and F124 would offer something very different with it having real life drivers and a proper real life championship to take part in with actual qualifying and standing grid starts. Just looking on the comments for F124 on EA F1 twitter (sorry, X), the most requested things appear to be better graphics, more realism with the physics, better helmet design and PSVR2 support. There is a target audience of 1.3 million PSVR2 users (maybe more) if they add the support. Those are not small numbers. Now is a better time than any with GT7 being the only racing game available for it currently. Personally, I think F1 game sales would have a better chance of improving by adding a feature that is actually adding something significant to the game rather than adding features like "improved handling" which are purely subjective and seems to be a thing that is added every year. I keep seeing comments that the game hasn't really changed since 2020 (some even saying since 2016) and that year on year sales are in the decline. Think they're missing a trick here to be honest and seem happy enough to offer the bare minimum with their annual updates.Out of interest, what is needed to improve the career mode? I've not played an F1 game since 2020 and would only play career mode, but I don't know what more I'd personally want from it. Seemed to have a lot to do in it back in 2020 and didn't really have any complaints about it myself back then. I would definitely want to do the podium ceremony on PSVR2 though. That would be awesome. Is that in there on PC VR?You're deluded to push your personal agenda like that. Cloud cuckoo land. A real captain of industry.

They really need to add PSVR2 compatibility. There is a big target audience out there who own the headset and who are in awe of how it works with GT7 (like I am). This could be a real headset seller for those who haven't bought it yet as F1's popularity is huge. I've got no interest in buying an F1 game without PSVR2 support. Once you race in VR, there is no going back. There is also only one VR racing game for PSVR2, so I'd say a hefty percentage of the 1.3 million (?) PSVR2 owners would pick this up.

Honestly, it's a fairly simple equation for CM. How easy/time consuming is it to implement PSVR2?What percentage of our players play on PlayStation?Of those who play on PS5 how many have virtual reality headsets?TLDR, You need to reach come sort of critical mass in terms of player base to make it worthwhile and I'm inclined to agree with @ScarDuck14 that it seems unlikely.Also given the number of bugs, glitches and lack of innovation relating to core gameplay features that tend to accompany every new release I think the community would be better served by them focusing on those issues instead of implementing something that's going to be used by less than 5% of the player base.

Come on, guys...EA has tons of info and insights about the gaming market and gamers preferences. Easy to presume that if this implementation was really profitable in terms of compressing it into a already tight development schedule, perhaps leading to other improvements being dropped, it would be already done.Not to mention that developing in PCs is way easier than on consoles, actually this could be the no-go for PSVR2.Time is expensive and maybe we need to look the bigger picture.

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Meteore
9 months ago
@lufc100 I will pay for the game and I will pay for a VR DLC. But to be honnest, no chance !! PSVR2 is not in the EA plan. Also, EA don't read any comments !! Did you see any answer from EA / Codemasters ??? NO = No respect for users !!
Cpayne32
Hero
9 months ago
@Meteore I don’t think it is just EA’s issue. Sony is already pulling psvr2 support due to lack of sales so it may be that it isn’t worth the additional cost to implement.
ScarDuck14
Legend
9 months ago
@MeteoreThey read all. The fact they don’t reply points to the fact they don’t care about PSVR2. The only way they will care is if there is profit to be had.

Also as i mentioned Sony pausing production due to terrible sales figures. I wasn’t as clear as I could have been. So peak sales for PSVR2 was at launch. Every subsequent month they havnt just seen a gradual decline in sales. They have been huge drops. Because the vast majority of us have no interest in it.

We had the same debate last year and a user started a petition for PSVR2 and posted a link here and a number of other F1 game boards… After 2 weeks. How many people do you think signed it… Even I was blown away… Just 70 people

This game and no other AA - AAA upcoming racing game worth spending money on has support

I hate taking EA side over any player. BUT ITS NOT THRE PROBLEM. Sony launched a awesome but expensive headset no one wants
superhoops82
9 months ago
https://racinggames.gg/f1/f1-psvr2-support-is-still-an-ongoing-conversation-says-codemasters/
At least we now officially know we won't be getting PSVR2 support for F124.
Disappointing as it'll be another year I skip the F1 games. So that's at least 71 of us (I didn't see the petition).
Be interesting to hear if those buying it think it is that much of an improvement over F123, as that is what all their resources are focused on.
Meteore
9 months ago
@superhoops82Lee Mather from Codemasters said « it’s difficult for third-party developers to justify pouring resources into a niche product like PSVR 2.« Please tell me that the F1 24 PCVR is not a niche !!!! Anyway did you see an advertising for the PCVR feature ?? No, because isn’t good enough and is for a niche of users !!!
Cpayne32
Hero
9 months ago
@Meteore Its also Sony postponing support and updates because the sales figures are not what they were expecting. I think i remember seeing the average is 1 in 70 people have a psvr2

Let’s say 200,000 people bought f123 on the PlayStation consoles (estimates), that’s means an estimated 2,857 people have a PSVR2.

I would rather have a vastly improved career mode over a feature that only 1.5% of users would be using.

I’m not saying it shouldn’t happen though but unless there was a bigger pool of players with the vr headset its not worth it
superhoops82
9 months ago
@Cpayne32 I imagine the number of PSVR2 players buying F124 if it supported the headset would be a fair bit higher than that. Certainly at least 100,000 if you align it to number of RE4 remake players playing that game in VR. I imagine there is less uptake of individual horror games in VR, firstly because they are scary as hell on VR (from personal opinion) and secondly because there is a large selection of games like that already. F124 only has GT7 to compete against and F124 would offer something very different with it having real life drivers and a proper real life championship to take part in with actual qualifying and standing grid starts.
Just looking on the comments for F124 on EA F1 twitter (sorry, X), the most requested things appear to be better graphics, more realism with the physics, better helmet design and PSVR2 support. There is a target audience of 1.3 million PSVR2 users (maybe more) if they add the support. Those are not small numbers. Now is a better time than any with GT7 being the only racing game available for it currently.
Personally, I think F1 game sales would have a better chance of improving by adding a feature that is actually adding something significant to the game rather than adding features like "improved handling" which are purely subjective and seems to be a thing that is added every year. I keep seeing comments that the game hasn't really changed since 2020 (some even saying since 2016) and that year on year sales are in the decline. Think they're missing a trick here to be honest and seem happy enough to offer the bare minimum with their annual updates.
Out of interest, what is needed to improve the career mode? I've not played an F1 game since 2020 and would only play career mode, but I don't know what more I'd personally want from it. Seemed to have a lot to do in it back in 2020 and didn't really have any complaints about it myself back then. I would definitely want to do the podium ceremony on PSVR2 though. That would be awesome. Is that in there on PC VR?
Cpayne32
Hero
9 months ago
@superhoops82 The only way i expect the graphics to improve is to move to the unreal engine and drop the release for last gen consoles.

With career mode i mean driver career specifically as that hasn’t seen any noteworthy improvements since 2016. I myself get bored of my team very quickly especially once the car is maxed out and that mode is in need of updates too.

Problem we have is content being add we don’t need or want. Braking point was okay but i know some people who likely haven’t touched it at all. Then F1 world. Its an alright mode littered with micro transactions
Meteore
9 months ago
@Cpayne32 I'm assuming you've never played a VR racing game, otherwise you'd have another speech!! It is impossible to return to a flat screen after VR. Not at all the same sensation, not the same control...definitely no more interest!!
Cpayne32
Hero
9 months ago
@Meteore I haven’t as I don’t own a VR headset. As im on PS5 my only option is the PSVR2 and £500 for only GT7 (only game i play regularly) is not worth it

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