Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories in the world and at the forefront of launches and developments, etc. It's almost like the space industry works (laughs). What is your opinion about this? Should the game come with the possibility of PSVR2? If it doesn't come at launch, is it due to an update?
@TheRagebeard wrote:@SteveJackson "And I am obviously in a shocking subset who would rather the game was better than supported VR in any fashion!" you are not part of a shocking subset. 95%+ of the people who buy this game would prefer a better overall experience to having VR capabilities. The average consumer who's going to buy this game not only doesn't have VR they don't even have a wheel.
Many people overlook the fact that as "hardcore" players who spent a bunch on money on a sim racing setup we tend to normalize that "hardcoreness" both because we hang around this board with other hardcore sim racers and our IRL friends tend to skew towards hardcore sim racing. As you mention the population as a whole is a bunch on controller Charlies who save they're money for other interests or to diversify their collection of games.
TLDR: I completely agree with you, throw VR in throw and focus on making a decent game.
I was being a little facetious.
The point is twofold, even those that buy VR don’t always want to use it for racing. So it does seem that 1.1% may be a generous figure.
And @mariohomoh is correct, if resources are tight VR is the last thing to develop.
@TheRagebeard wrote:@superhoops82 "Just flagging a **GAME BREAKING BUG** for F1 2024... It is not working on PSVR2!
Please fix ASAP." except for the whole part where they never committed to putting PSVR2 in the game in the first place, therefore not actually a bug, just something your disappointed about.
This was merely said in jest in response to the comment that EA staff only acknowledge responses on the forums that highlight game breaking bugs.
@superhoops82 My apologies then if I came across as rude, I wasn't sure if you were joking or trying to make furious and unrelenting push for the inclusion of VR.
@superhoops82 wrote:
@TheRagebeard wrote:@superhoops82 "Just flagging a **GAME BREAKING BUG** for F1 2024... It is not working on PSVR2!
Please fix ASAP." except for the whole part where they never committed to putting PSVR2 in the game in the first place, therefore not actually a bug, just something your disappointed about.
This was merely said in jest in response to the comment that EA staff only acknowledge responses on the forums that highlight game breaking bugs.
- I am well aware that PSVR2 support was never there in the first place, but is very much something I wish they would implement.
I gave you XP because I thought it was funny. However, I'm also not against them doing this, but I think a few of us have explained it won't happen because of why some think it should. If it's an "easy win", why not? Losing a handful of sales won't swing it.
@TheRagebeard wrote:@superhoops82 My apologies then if I came across as rude, I wasn't sure if you were joking or trying to make furious and unrelenting push for the inclusion of VR.
It's all good! No offence taken. Just wanted to be clear on my stance on this.
For me personally, it's the top of my list in terms of what I want from PSVR2. I want to be racing alongside virtual versions of real racing drivers in a real F1 season, something you can't do in GT7.
Other PSVR2 wishlist items are another Astrobot VR (which I thought would be nailed on) and a GT6 VR mode.
The one thing I will say being in the 1.1%, why do developers create PSVR modes for other games then? I'm talking about Res Evil, No Man's Sky and Wipeout for example. They already exist in a popular flat world, yet PSVR support was made for them. If people like me are disappointed that PSVR2 support is not included for an F1 game, I think we have good reason to be based on the support for other games, even if we are in the minority.
I completely see the logic from people like yourself. All fair reasoning. I just want to see VR succeed across multiple platforms. It really should be embraced by the masses and is a bigger leap forward than any console generational gap these days (in my opinion). Sadly cost is the problem. VR alone is more expensive than the console, let alone adding a wheel into the mix
@superhoops82 "Sadly cost is the problem." Pretty much this. With any technology, first you invent it, then you have a couple directions you can go with it in terms of R&D, do we add more features? do we make it smaller and more portable? more energy efficient? do we make it more affordable and accessible? just to name a few of the top of my head.
Either they haven't been able to figure how to make it more affordable, or they've deluded themselves into thinking if they keep adding new features/games people will magically look past the price point and sales will take off.
IMO I think we won't see a "VR Revolution" until at least the PS6 timeline, but I sense I'm not the target audience so what do I know.
VR has been around since the 90s and despite many efforts it’s never gained mass appeal. Many studies have been made into why. Turns out people myself included don’t like the thought off wearing a headset that cuts you off from reality for a number off reason… most common being.. Antisocial, feeling vulnerable.
@ScarDuck14 A lot of you all might not of seen this but several years back here in the US there was a commercial kinda making fun of VR.
started off with a dude playing a game on his virtual reality headset, meanwhile, in the background his girlfriend is packing up everything in the apartment (flat). Then when she finally leaves and slams the door closed behind her, he of course takes off the VR headset to see what the noise was and realizes everything is gone, and starts looking around really confused. Only things left at this point are him, a lawn chair, the TV, the PlayStation, and the VR headset.
i forget what the ad was trying to sell, other than obviously not a VR headset but yes I would agree, there’s still a bit of a stigma about blocking yourself off from the world.
Probably far more people than play split screen mode which they spent time and resurces on. Not to mention the serious sim racers who only play in VR who will be live streaming on YouTube and give this a miss if they don't take the VR mode seriously on PC and offer the mode on playstation.
Gran turismo VR was huge and transcended the genre in terms of player interest.
