Hey there, Please, feel free to share your thoughts and feedback on F1® 24 here. As always, we encourage you to share your sentiment openly, whether positive or negative. However, please, be mindful when posting and respect our Guidelines & Rules. -Groguet

Firstly I hope the comments posted here are listened to and not just passed on to the development team and ignored. Granted some of the complaints have been recognised and the team have improved various things.The absolute frustration for me at least comes in the form of the gimmicks that EA seem to be primarily focused on rather than what everyone has been asking for. Seriously who cares one iotta about sunglasses, headphones, stickers and fanzone?F1 world needs to be completely binned. Completely fictitious nonsense and a waste of time and resources again.By decimating the store of race wear items, mainly helmets in F124 is completely unacceptable. Just look at the post I created months ago "why only 3 helmets" to which now has been closed! Look and listen to the feedback EA!Adding in another two helmets to the store to try and make amends isn't good enough. You could have at least added old helmet designs from F121,22,23 which costs almost zero recourses but you chose to ignore those requests.The Ferrari engine sound since the last update isn't great. The F2 cars sound great, so why can't you do the same for F1? Granted each car has different characteristics in terms of engine sounds, but surely it can't be that hard to replicate?AI DRS trains are terrible and completely spoil the immersion. Why wasn't this tested properly by your development team prior to release? You changed the way the ERS works and never retrained the AI to use it. This is absolute basic stuff. If the dirty air element was adjusted as requested by a lot of people, then I am absolutely convinced this would go a long way to resolve the issue.Handling, as bad as it was I fully understand the difficulties of it after David left. At least now it's much better, but still not great. No start light bug, dry tyres in wet races? No wet races in two player career, no safety car in two player career. Seriously how on earth has this ever passed your QC testing team? Tells me the game was never properly tested in the first place. With it being a yearly franchise I'm not expecting huge leaps every year. But what I and everyone else is expecting is a massive improvement for F125, with much more care and attention to detail.What I expect for F125.Improved handling for all players, wheel and controller.Improved AI to ensure racing is realistic and more immersive.Way more helmets to choose from. Or even better a basic helmet editor, how hard can that be? Bin F1 World and use the recourses to implement one. I bet absolutely everyone would want that.Engine sounds have to be better. The TV camera sounds are actually excellent, but it does not match the car visually on track at times.I'd like to see less pointless stuff like stickers and fanzone. Just absolute drivel that no one cares about.Maybe bring back classic cars.More immersive things within career mode, like team briefing after each session etc. maybe driving the car out of the pits to line up on the grid before the race. It's the little things like this that can make it more realistic and immersive. Focus more on the racing aspect rather than things that don't belong in an F1 game.And for the love of god stop creating games with the same repetitive bugs!Finally, if you're going to charge £90 for F125, at least produce a game that works and one that has been thoroughly tested, even if it's a later release.

Customization is absolutely horrible this year especially the lack of options compared to what we had in the past. There should be some sort of editor in liveries, suits, and helmets. Every other racing game has it, and real world sponsors to truly create your style. Handling should be a thing that real drivers and engineers have input on, not content creators. Lets be honest 99% of the people that play this game have zero idea of how an actual F1/F2 cars handles or responds in the real world but we give into them year after year and it only seems to get worse. In youre own videos the drivers do with the engineers they are asked why are they driving like this and the response from the driver is oh thats how you have to in this game. I understand you cant get to the true level of realism due to what the game is but have to do better. BETA this game for longer stop making us pay for a BETA game, we have had quite a few updates that have fixed very few things and come with even more issues. F1 World is a waste of space from what Ive seen, I gave it a shot last year and its not it.Podium past needs to be reverted, it has too much F1 world content if its sprinkled in great but for the most part its all about F1 world. Also the recycling of content in the pass and the store needs to stop. Unless I'm the only one that doesn't want zombie poses and fish liveries like come on this is supposed to an arcade sim not a children's game leave that to Fortnite Upgrades need to be a bit more realistic, teams aren't putting out upgrades like that and when you're in the second season and the car is fully upgraded its not fun (I Know you can turn it down but still that puts you late season 2 early season 3)To sum it up, better physics and more customization options. (I didnt proof read, late for a meeting lol)

@EA_Groguet F1 world is not a mode i touch anymore because i find it too easy and unrewarding.My team NEEDS some attention because i haven’t even a competitive season as there was no reason to.The F2 cars both last years editions and this years are fun to drive but having to wait 4 months for the new cars is something that needs to be looked atDriver’s career is better with the improvements but I feel more transfers between teams need to happen.The challenge career’s aren’t of major interest because there little challenge in terms of easily being able to manipulate the resultsCustomisation is awful. Having so few liveries is not good.Overall id say it is a big step back from 23 and id very much expect a major improvement for 25

@EA_GroguetHey brother hope you well.Ok I’ll make this short. 😂F1 world has got to go.This game being series specific and content light. Is what it is. We don’t mind paying for it being light on content. But trying to monetise this game is not going to happen. There’s just not enough meat on it.. Plus these games generally appeal to older gamers that remember a time when games weren’t monetised and wont fall for such egregious attempts to empty our pockets so EA/ Codies need to admit defeat.Except there’s one way to successfully monetise this game that nearly all off us would be happy to pay for. TRACK DLC. My idea would be for codies to pick 9 or so tracks that are not on that years roster. 3 months into game cycle drop a 2 track paid dlc and then another 3 months later. Following year do the same using different 4 tracks. This way players won’t have to buy the same tracks year on year as Codies can rotate the tracks and also have time to make updates to those tracks in the couple off years they are not in use.Needs to add livery and helmet designer as part off the game. Codies have access to both NFS and WRC livery designers. Plus the one they used for F1 mobile game so shouldn’t be a huge issue adapting it for this gameTeaching the Ai needs a whole new curriculum. Ie the way it races us and eachother plus the damage model needs to go back to how it used to be. Which I reported last year and the dev team are well aware off. Last two years it’s gone backwards. Once a leading Ai in racing games will fall behind its competitors next year if it doesn’t improve. It’s soul destroying. 700-1000 hours every year I play this game. But because off the bad Ai. Last year just 350 hours and this year a shocking 44 hours and I’m done with it.(hence why I hardly post anymore. Which will most likely please a few people) Compared to Cricket 24 that’s a buggy AA game at best. Last 2 months I’ve rather played that and put 300 hours in. No monetisation in that game and despite its short falls and a boring sport the gameplay is solid.Codies should have prioritised my team over new career.They need to find an away to make the career modes last longer. It’s currently ten years which would be fine but you get everything done in 3 years. In terms of how car update works. Max out a car be it human or ai controlled team should never be a thing. Should be ups and downs year on year.Needs a calendar customisation.That’s off the top off my head. I’ve been warning EA from the day I was made champion about the state off the game and players opinions off it. As you know. And said what needed to be done. But as much as the community team were willing to engage with me. It’s unfortunate those that make decisions at EA/Codemasters didn’t listen. Ignoring my all knowingness 😂.

1. At a high level, I think the entire project and release lifecycle of the F1 series needs to change. Ideally it should be a two-year release schedule with a roster/schedule/livery/car model DLC in between game releases. And both dev teams need to be using the same builds of the games at all times during development.2. For the entire series, but for F1 24 in particular, it's very clear that there was no meaningful testing done. I'm assuming it's because there wasn't enough time to do the amount of testing the game needed, but again, that goes back to the release cycle for these games. You absolutely can't give these games the amount of time they need for testing by having a new release every year. When things get missed in one game, those things eventually snowball, because the pace of releases doesn't allow for time to slow down and actually fix things before having to shove another somewhat-finished game out the door.3. Listening to your players is important, but what's more important is: ACT on the feedback that players are giving you. It's clear that no one who had early access to F1 24 had good feelings about it. That feedback should've been heeded, and the game should have spent 4-6 more months in development and testing at LEAST. We don't mind waiting longer in order to get a better game.4. Stop with trying to reinvent the wheel with game modes (no pun intended). People want Career, they want MyTeam, they want online (casual and ranked), and they want historical content. AMS2 is absolutely destroying this franchise with historical content, and they're on the verge of releasing another huge update. 5. You're making the games pretty, but not fun. Visual immersion is great, but there's a reason games like iRacing are still the go-to's. It may be dated, but it's stable, and it works without fail. Every year these games get prettier, but more things break. F1 24 is less about one or two BIG things that make the game not fun to play, and more about lots and lots of little issues that add up to make the game experience dull, frustrating, confusing, and tiresome.6. Either fix the persistent issues and bugs that have been reported for years, or start developing a new engine for the game. It's clearly not working as intended anymore, no matter how many new coats of paint get slapped on every year. There's been no indication or action that we've seen as players that give the impression anyone knows how to actually fix these bugs anymore.7. If you update a handling model, tire model, etc. then you need to do thorough testing to see how that affects everything else on the cars (DRS, ERS, tire wear/temps, etc.). Again, this just goes back to testing these games to the degree they need to be tested. For example, running a 5 lap race as a User Acceptance Test isn't good enough.8. The gimmicks are old. We don't care that you got Max Verstappen to give feedback on the handling. All we care about is having handling that that feels good. We don't care about Fan Zone or GP Voting (even though I think these are fun ideas). All we care about is having an online experience that's stable and fun to play with other people. We don't care that Lance Stroll's face is rendered in beautiful 4k textures with ray tracing and subsurface scattering. All we care about is seeing his avatar make the same kind of mistakes he does in real life (and that goes for ALL driver avatars).On one hand, I could keep sharing thoughts all day about what could and should have been done differently with F1 24. But I've been sharing my thoughts in great detail the last 4 months, and nothing's changed. And nothing is going to change at a corporate level, because EA isn't going to invest the time and money to allow CM the ability to permit better testing or create a new game engine. So I'm at the point where I need to stop wasting my energy and time on it and move on to other games/sims. I'm tired of reporting the same issues every year, only to see them pop up the year after, and the year after. We all are.

[Feedback] F1® 24 - Share your thoughts

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claudian7x
5 months ago
@EA_Groguet One thing you need to update is the customization of pilots, when we create our own pilot for career mode, it should have a level of customization like FIFA, so we can change the face in detail, nose, ears, mouth, eyes , hair, this would make the game more attractive, because we would create a pilot similar to us, the face models there are the same since F1 2015, for F1 25 bring a more advanced customization to create a pilot like the creation of FIFA players. Thanks.
Bbtrush
5 months ago
@TomasSlb24 Im a fan of the FIFA franchise it has been the same copy and paste for a few years now I still buy it for updated kits and that type of stuff.

On the F1 game, I understand it will never be a pure sim game. The whole ask is to get rid of the gimmicks and get back to the basics. Why is time being wasted on those things when there is alot more core gameplay elements that need work. Effectively we are all buying a beta game with the hopes it gets better but usually just gets worse over time.
To his point how did we go from a huge upward trend of classic cars, short tracks, classic tracks, etc. to what we have now and it all seems to line up with EA buying codies.
EA has crushed franchise after franchise, FIFA, F1, NASCAR (back in the day), Madden, even the new CFB a game that's been in development for years is underwhelming with the issues it was having with core player movements. Its just copy & paste revenue chasing with little to no innovation.

Iracing made a console sprint car game which was awesome the physics were legit the AI racing was solid, the customization was really good. For the non Sprint car fans give it a go dirt track racing is really fun. Iracing also got the rights to the NASCAR franchise which will be really telling how far we can push Arcade sims to keep it fun for controller players and wheel players.

I do play console and pc, Im gonna give the AMS2 a go as I have been hearing good things

Ive pre ordered for many years for F1 this year I was not planning on pre ordering but they had me with the new physics (which Im one of the seemly few who did enjoy it). Next year IDC what the new thing is they wont be getting my money unless I read or see good things after the 1st patch seeing as that's always were it starts going south
Bbtrush
5 months ago
@Cpayne32 We know this live services are probably here to stay it was the latter part of the video speaking of how F1 19/20/21 were trending with the features that were being introduced. Then EA stepped in and there after with the lack of features the customer base cars about ie. classic cars, tracks, customization, etc.
ShermanThePig
5 months ago
When will EA make it possible for console players to be able to upload images outside of the game to customise the liveries, helmets and uniforms further?
2K on their NBA games allow you to uploads images on to the game to customise your uniform using your 2K account.
Couldn't EA do the same with players using their EA accounts?
At the moment it's very restricted to just PC players who have to use Photoshop and mods to change the designs.
At least, could they not let us change the size and placement of the sponsors on the cars and suits?
Side note: please have logos for companies like DHL, the FIA and Pirelli as defaults on the car like every other F1 team. You should already have the rights for those logos for the rest of the game anyway
TomasSlb24
5 months ago
@BbtrushSo like me, you understand that EA getting this game was gonna have the same path FIFA games have now. How many years has the community asked for countless things, either for career mode or UT and they barely listen to it?

It's exactly how you say it, we had so many good things in F1 19 and F1 20, the game was looking to have a bright future, and out of nowhere, every good thing this game had, just seems to be vanishing.

AMS2 is not the best sim racing game at the moment, I would say IRacing is the best for online and AC is the best to put some mods and play different tracks and cars. But AMS2 devs put work and time in the game, they listen to the community and improve what can be improved, without removing things that are needed into what's important, and that's racing.
And now a big update seems to be coming that will put that game in probably the same level as IRacing (I hope).
Quick edit: They should have a serious debate about working with modders, the fact games like AC, AMS2 and others have the game moddable so new tracks can be added, new cars can be added helps the game to be better. I know licensing probably does not allow that, but for this games, that are a lot of mods that help this game keep some part of the community active.
dwin20
5 months ago
Overall, clearly there was a significant effort to improve car handling as can be seen by the interaction of new setup items as well as larger/different ranges for existing items. Those additional items reflect an attempt to make a more comparable F1 car handling performance and engaging F1 driving experience. There needs to be additional refinement done, given there are more variables to deal with. As a result I prefer F24 to other versions - understanding it is a work in progress.
Continue focusing on getting the racing right. Make this closer to real life and those who want less realism can use the assists. This addresses the full range of experiences wanted.
Create a thread where developers can discuss the ideas for handling they are considering. Two of the best threads in this forum have been David Greco’s and Casey Ringley’s Q&A on car handling development. In those we got a sense of what was been done to change/improve handling, as well as questions about what players should expect after a patch and other items they were trying to understand.
Make the engineer useful - having them inform the driver what is happening on the track - oversteer, understeer, etc - and maybe make suggestions for adjustments.
Make the suspension geometry have more variance in impact than it currently has. It seems everyone uses basically the same settings for every track.
Replace F1World with F1Academy (a variation of @GrumpsMcDumps idea). This would be for all the tracks where the player would drive each of the sectors individually and then get a bronze, silver, gold for achieving specific times (or any other type of grade). This means you could repeat specific sectors without having to do the whole lap. Once you have achieved a medal for each sector then you do the same thing for the entire track.
Create tutorials that really cover the game and its features in some detail. A good example would be a detailed video of car setups and the interaction between the various elements.
Focus on Career and My Team - that is what the game is really about. Look to F1 Manager in terms of thinking through upgrades to cars.
Make the practices more about how to get to the right setup - see item #3 and what F1 Manager does as well.
Make telemetry available in some form.
LightPilgrim
Seasoned Scout
5 months ago
My experience is this:
1. I feel like a beta tester. This game was launched in May and at the end of September you still experiment with how it should work (driving, engine sound, etc)
2. I was trying to master the mechanics of driving only to see it change several times and all stats being erased
3. the worst thing of all is the Ferrari sound issue that came with 1.10. Why would you do that? No word of when it will be reversed to normal
looks like the whole game is an experiment. I would be happy if you just keep it like it is, let people get used to it and bring back the Ferrari sound.
but I also have a learning. I am never going to preorder a game ever again and when it launches, I will wait for reviews to say the game is now good enough to play. Only then I might buy it. Not going to be a QA for you. I am not paid for it.
Meza994
5 months ago
@EA_Groguet wrote:
Hey there,
Please, feel free to share your thoughts and feedback on F1® 24 here.
As always, we encourage you to share your sentiment openly, whether positive or negative. However, please, be mindful when posting and respect our Guidelines & Rules.
-Groguet
This is how i would fix the racing itself:
Redo the entire dirty air/slipstream as it is completely (broken with the AI) now
at least 25% maximum downforce loss
minimum 2.5s dirty air length
if you cant make the AI handle 25% downforce loss just make it 15% downforce loss and an additional ~1-2% less tyre grip (of course equally building up from far away to right behind the other car). Although not ideal its the best way to simulate it and proper pace loss (when behind another car) is needed to get the real racing experience
make the AI suffer from engine temps as the player does – shouldnt differ much in the temps
make the dirty air increase engine temps by 5-10°C or by as much needed to make the following car lose ~2% ICE power when following for a few laps. (exceptions would be extremely cold tracks such as Las Vegas where engines dont really overheat)
train the AI to have tyre temperature simulation as it had in F1 2018 or 2019, just this time with the effect of the tyre temps on grip enabled.
make the dirty air decrease the tyre cooling so that tyres overheat by a maximum of 5°C when following another car for a couple of laps (exceptions would be extremely cold tracks such as Las Vegas where tyres dont really overheat)
The AI should be able to handle it well as the tyre grip will rise or drop with gentle slopes instead of big jumps (as is in F1 24)
DRS can stay as strong as it is in F1 24 (realistic)
Slipstream effect should be strong enough to barely lose time compared to not in dirty air/slipstream
this offset should get a lot bigger the closer you are to the car in front (also depends on how many corners and straights there are on a track) but on the average track it should be ideally similar to this:
0.0s-0.4s behind = +0.4s per lap while in dirty air
0.5s-0.9s behind = +0.225s per lap while in dirty air
1.0s-1.4s behind = +0.15s per lap while in dirty air
1.5s-1.9s behind = +0.1s per lap while in dirty air
2.0s-2.4s behind = +0.05s per lap while in dirty air
2.5s-2.9s behind = +0.025s per lap while in dirty air
3.0s-3.5s behind = ~0.0s per lap while in dirty air (holds the balance between slower in corners and gaining on straights)
DRS and slipstream will lead to rather easy overtaking opportunities on long straights when you can keep closer to the car in front but dont underestimate the tyre temps and engine temps making it a bit harder than the list above if you cant overtake quickly
This will prevent most DRS trains as cars that are more than 2 tenths quicker than the car in front will likely quickly overtake and the other cars will in time have their engines overheat and tyres overheat, costing them even more time leading to them dropping out of DRS after a couple of laps, even with DRS gaining up to 4-5 tenths.
With the now added tyre temp simulation and engine temps for AI there can be better differentiation in terms of race pace per team. Some cars having more heating, some less thus depending on the air and track temps to determine who gains/loses in hot/cold conditions (engine temps only ever overheat but in e.g. Las Vegas the cars with bad engine cooling wont be at a disadvantage in the race)
This will take a bit more variation in track and air temps (ideally within a session too) from the recent games but yield even more variation in race results
With the bigger importance of tyre and engine temperatures these could be an additional upgrade path for R&D in career modes (engine cooling and either tyre cooling or brake cooling the latter would require a more realistic approach to tyre temps than in F1 24 with brake temps matter more
Completely overhaul the ERS usage from the AI!
Only use ERS on long DRS straights
exceptions would be the back straight in Suzuka (towards and after 130R) and the backstraight in Spa before and after Blanchimont
defending cars (cars that dont get DRS) only have a 50% chance to use ERS to defend
overtaking cars will use ERS on the longest straight of the track for a big part of that straight if they have over 60% battery left and will keep using it till they are past the car they try to overtake on that single straight.
These parts can be marked for the AI to be the only places allowed for ERS and the 60% battery as a condition, if these two are not met, they cant deploy any battery but if they do it will give them a big boost to overtaking along the slipstream and DRS
AI will not use ERS for just a second or even less, no more wasted usage in corners or at the very end of a straight all by themselfes
For simplicities sake make the AI only use medium ERS unless:
there is a VSC/SC, then they use none
they have not a car behind or in front of them (over 3s), then they can do a lap in hotlap mode when they got over 80% battery
ERS itself is a bit out of balance, it yields too much power in the topspeed – cant really tell if its the general balance between ERS and ICE as those numbers got pretty cryptic and convoluted with how many things affect it in F1 24 but it behaves too ERS dependant in terms of top speed, a (slight) nerf but be good IMO
Same with the energy recovery, battery charge was too easy to recover quickly but doesnt need a big nerf! Maximum 10% less recovery
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
5 months ago
@Meza994 ❤️❤️❤️
homesvslupin
5 months ago
An example of the most ideal engine sound you aim for
It should not only be recorded as an real engine sound, but also processed to have this feel.

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