Hello,Playing with 60 FPS is faster not only because of using the kerbs but also traction is better. They will solve the issue with kerbs but what will happen to traction? This is so weird and I do not want to play with 60 FPS. Although, everybody will play on 60 FPS as long as it's faster.

In the extensive tests made by Gillon he didn't find any traction improvement from lowering FPS, just more traction stability. The major differences of low FPS is how much you can cut corners and how little curbs impact the car, conversely however lower FPS has a negative impact on suspensions and force feedback, hence you feel much more bumps on the road and there's more latency involved when using a wheel.Overall higher FPS gives a much smoother feel on the driving, but lower FPS has the huge benefit of being able to cut corners and going over kerbs without being jumped around. In traction there can be some difference but it is mostly inconsequential.

This is the law of retaliation for me, I've played at 60 fps for years, as soon as I switched to a better monitor here we are! 🥳I didn't try a full comparison on my side (playing on PS5 at 120 fps currently), I must admin I 'felt' something 'easier' at 60 fps but I immediately started to 'suffer' the lower refresh, my eyes no longer accepted it (incredible to say because when I went to 120 I didn't feel such a difference improving), so I gave up, even if honestly half a tenth in Time Trial maybe it makes me enter the Top 100 on some tracks, so I hope it will be fix soon.Regards,NuvP.S.: should the leaderboard be wiped after the fix, for example in Monza?

@thiago_ssj If there is effect to traction, it's not very obvious or signifcant, unless you are talking really small margins where it would matter (if it's not placebo or explained by something else).I played for few evening using 60fps and then changed back to 200fps+ and frankly, I didn't notice any change with the traction. I'm not top-100 TT player though. Higher fps should give you less input lag, which is always a plus in most games.With kerbs though, it's is quite clear that there has been an issue.@Amioram if it's some old code remnant, it would probably happen on F1 2021 as well. I still don't know has anybody tested it with that game. Gillon suggested in his video about possibility for it be related to performance and having to make the game run on PS4/Xbox one level hardware... so that's one theory

@Ileleee wrote:I played for few evening using 60fps and then changed back to 200fps+ and frankly, I didn't notice any change with the traction. I'm not top-100 TT player though. Alex Gillon is though and as noted above he didn't notice a difference either.

@Ultrasonic_77 Has he only just discovered he’s in the top 1% cause he seems to be shoehorning the fact at every opportunity. But the OSD amount off time and effort and detail he puts in his videos. I expect his he’s tried and tested it every game car and sim rig setting and setup to perfection

60 FPS is faster also on traction

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Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
This is the law of retaliation for me, I've played at 60 fps for years, as soon as I switched to a better monitor here we are! 🥳
I didn't try a full comparison on my side (playing on PS5 at 120 fps currently), I must admin I 'felt' something 'easier' at 60 fps but I immediately started to 'suffer' the lower refresh, my eyes no longer accepted it (incredible to say because when I went to 120 I didn't feel such a difference improving), so I gave up, even if honestly half a tenth in Time Trial maybe it makes me enter the Top 100 on some tracks, so I hope it will be fix soon.
Regards,
Nuv
P.S.: should the leaderboard be wiped after the fix, for example in Monza?
Amioram
3 years ago
@Ileleee Yes, I'm pretty positive it happened also in F1 21 (and even earlier) but it can be that other factors made such behavior less prominent and hence nobody noticed. It can be that with the physics model of the cars this year the problematic becomes much more noticeable than before.

I sincerely doubt they created some new code in 2021 that tied physics to fps, as it wouldn't make any sense.
thiago_ssj
New Adventurer
3 years ago
@Ileleee whats difference on brakes? i feel the brakes are so weak in f1 22, i need brake sooner

in time trial i don´t see problems, the car are more stable than in another methods because don´t have tyre wear and track and tyre temperatures is fixed on perfect target all the time
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Ultrasonic_77 Has he only just discovered he’s in the top 1% cause he seems to be shoehorning the fact at every opportunity. But the OSD amount off time and effort and detail he puts in his videos. I expect his he’s tried and tested it every game car and sim rig setting and setup to perfection
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77Has he only just discovered he’s in the top 1% cause he seems to be shoehorning the fact at every opportunity. But the OSD amount off time and effort and detail he puts in his videos. I expect his he’s tried and tested it every game car and sim rig setting and setup to perfection
I was just thinking of the video where Ben Daley was driving on Alex's rig and the TT leaderboard positions they achieved popped up. I've not watched all of Alex's video though so I may have not come across the 'shoehorning' 🙂.
mariohomoh
Hero (Retired)
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14I don't actively follow Alex but he is certainly one of the better youtubers in F1 games out there. If I'm not mistaken, he generally favors offline single player modes. There was even a panel on Overtake channel with him and Kiefer way back in June this year and they commented on their preferences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gku9Vevlwco
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@mariohomoh Thanks for putting that video up BFF. Really good video. Esp as both off them reinforce a lot off my thoughts 😀
Ileleee
3 years ago
@thiago_ssj This is getting a bit out of subject, as I haven't heard anyting about braking being affected by the FPS problem.

Anyway...

I don't find the brakes clearly "worse" compared to 2021 myself, maybe a bit more challenging, but it does vary a lot depending are you playing a mode with upgrades and what upgrades you got (without ABS at least). I have had car where braking felt impossible to do well in my team mode..

I think the game is not giving good indication when you are locking up you tires during braking (at least when using wheel). So not slowing down enough could be because of that, you just haven't realized it. It's a been a while since 2021, but I definitely have harder time finding the right way to brake in every situation and avoiding those lock ups, but when I do, the braking distance doesn't feel shorter, on the contrary.

Remember to downshift as well when you start braking to get some engine braking help as well (you want to run higher gears in general in this game, so it's not that huge help though).
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Ileleee Think some or more when braking press and hold Pedal/trigger at 100% for to long. I use pad and find optimal brake pressure is around 60-80% even when using abs.. Along with not modulating the way deal/trigger or trail braking.

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