Hi,
I wonder if we may have a topic like this about the new F1 22 game like we had for F1 2020 here, it would be very interesting and appreciated 🙂
Ciao,
Nuv
I'll ask him and see if we can find a decent time where we are free for some Q&A action.
We'll it'll be David, not me. Anyone can drive in the midfield every Friday. I'll look to move a lot of the stuff we are used to seeing into EA Answers as we escalate transition.
Is there any point in the setup page now as I cant see any latitude really in it
The tyre pressures have gone the way of the brake balance in the game just set to lowest
The setup of the game has become a joke its basically on every track: 50% brake balance, lowest tyre pressures, full right/left on the camber page
Thank you very much for this update. I did some tests on Australia and Miami and the car feels much more predictable and I don't lose the rear so often anymore!
Also, I was able to lower the front wing in Miami and I do not lose so much speed on the straights anymore.
@FG44141 IRL the teams always try and use as low a tyre pressure as possible so tbh the fact you have to use lower pressures is actually more accurate now than what we had from 2019 upto now.
you dont have to use lowest pressures eg bahrain i can race with the default loaded setup with tyre pressures that are set around the middle of the sliders and i get no overheating tyres at all, also remember we have 5 differant compounds so teh tyres are not teh same compounds at every track and some tracks that use the c5 you may find that tyre also had issue with over heating and grip dropping off irl with teams not wanting to use that tyre in the race at all
the brake balance i agree is incorrect but as david has already said thats a change for next years handling model and isn't something he can do for this year and to be fair we have had a lot of changes from last year to this year due to the need for the floor to generate downforce correctly and how the floor interacts with kerbs and bumps etc
@DavidG53 I read the post in the F1 22 blog about the changes and it says to keep tyre pressures around the default levels. I'm using the presets without touching them and default tyre pressures levels still cause too much overheating...
@FG44141 wrote:Is there any point in the setup page now as I cant see any latitude really in it
The tyre pressures have gone the way of the brake balance in the game just set to lowest
The setup of the game has become a joke its basically on every track: 50% brake balance, lowest tyre pressures, full right/left on the camber page
It's unfortunate that suspension geometry (camber and alignment) are still so exploitable and that brake bias is still conditioned to other improvements on the physics to be finally "fixed".
You're still overblowing it though.
For optimum tyre performance you need to account for wear rate and temperature window.
Low pressures will give you higher tyre wear and lower average temperatures. High pressures will decrease average tyre wear but increase average temperature.
All that to a point. Submitting low pressure tyres to high workloads like high speed cornering will obviously spike the temps.
@mariohomoh wrote:
@Meza99 not exactly. I know you know it better, but given how many people are having such a hard time getting a hold over the new patch we should be more careful.
In motorsports as a whole decreasing tyre pressures will increase the amount of flex during corners, increasing the tyre's work rate and thus the overall grip - since cornering is key for performance. To a point, though: underinflated tyres will wear haphazardly.
That's why teams often push for lower pressures and Pirelli mandates minimum psi.
All work you subdue your tyres to will increase the temperature, but lower pressures on an easy lap will have lower temperature. That's for real life and the game both, isn't it?
Higher pressures will give you a higher baseline temperature, but will decrease the work rate of the tyres and thus also reduce the wear. To a point, though: too much heat will degrade the tyres.
Tyre wear has basically two sources: physical abrasion (aggravated by running low pressures as you increase the work load) and heat degradation (too much work, or too much pressure).
https://youtu.be/YmfN_F2LPQs
What I remember you mentioning being wrong in the game was how much you'd gain in lap times by running high pressures. Lower pressures will give you higher wear and lower baseline temperature though, as it should.
This. You can get overheating both by underinflating and overinflating. And for two different reasons (that mario explained well).
This is well simulated in other sims. In the first Assetto Corsa you had to lower the pressures compared to the default setups to get the correct tyre temperature range. In that case tyres were cold and needed more work (coming from lower pressures) to be in range
