Either i have chosen the absolutely perfect difficulty setting on first try (which i doubt) or the ERS management and DRS effect is poorly done in this game.You can not overtake. Its almost like in real life before the rule changes.ERS is depleted very rapidly, at least for the player carDRS effect is mildly effecting overtakingSlipstream is not existentEven in conjunction, ERS, DRS and Slipstream i was stuck behind the Ferraris <-> Red Bull on several tracks (Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Spain, Melbourne). I found overtaking better in F1 2021. ERS was manageable and you had to think about it, especially on some tracks. On Zandvoort you barely recovered any ERS but on this game? You barely recover ERS on any track and it depletes so rapidly. ERS management modes would help but welp, there goes the casual aspect. Whats your take on that?

Hello everyone, Thank you very much for your input regarding the DRS, ERS and slipstream. It's really good feedback. We will pass it on to the team

ERS, DRS, Slipstream is pretty bad

27 Replies

MisterJohnny420
4 years ago
@PBR3491Personally I think the DRS ist just way to weak. I was behind another driver with the same setup and had DRS open. He actually gained time on me by using his ERS only. ERS should not be stronger than DRS I'd say.

The ERS depletion rate seems fine to me though, it was used too much last year for my taste.
PBR3491
4 years ago
100% agree with the DRS aspect.
You can counter DRS with ERS usage which shouldnt be the case or at least not that powerful.
Yeah i kinda agree on the ERS aspect, the depletion is fine but i feel like it should recharge a bit more or the game should give you an engine mode to recover more ers. That would be great i think.
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@PBR3491 Here are the game file data for what you complain over.

Slipstream is exactly the same.
ERS is recovering less - MGU-K ~35% of 2021, MGU-H barely 10% less
ERS standard deployment is only half of 2021
ERS Overtake mode is still full power!
DRS is also the same data and behaving the same in the game compared to last year..

What setups do you use in your races? Might be just running more wing angle than AI?
Nuvolarix
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
As David Greco told us here the AI use the default preset for each track, so easy to get the info which setup the AI is running...
Greetings,
Nuv
MisterJohnny420
4 years ago
@Meza994 Maybe the new cars just have less drag? That would explain why DRS has less effect than before.
SomaticCoast375
New Hotshot
4 years ago
@PBR3491It’s still pretty easy to overtake. Making ers harder to recover stops constant drs trains every minute
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@MisterJohnny420 They do have less drag but at least in the preview build in Baku DRS increased the speed by 12 kph and almost 13, in 2021 Merc at Baku DRS increases speed by barely 15kph.. So yeah it could take a slight increase but 2-3 kph dont make the difference between breezing past and not losing time
petro1319
Rising Veteran
4 years ago
I think the big issue here isn't exactly the DRS, although if the data in the game is saying the effect is same it sure doesn't feel like it. I think that's because unless you're driving a Ferrari right now you're just not going to beat them in straight line speed, especially in a My Team car. With a Red Bull you can pull along side with DRS but I've found if you don't use Overtake as well you may not get past them. Of course your AI strength setting has something to do with this also. The Ferrari's are really overpowered in the game currently, Red Bull isn't far behind. Which... in all honesty is what we're seeing on Sundays. The AI powered Ferrari's though; wow they're fast.
The one surprising thing to me is that these new cars are meant to follow closer and not have as much dirty air effect, but in the game it feels as if that dirty air effect is too strong. I was following Leclerc this morning driving as Verstappen at Australia and once you get behind you get bogged down pretty good in the turns. It's nice to feel that, but in a new generation of cars that aimed to eliminate that you'd think it wouldn't be as pronounced in the game.
Meza994
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@petro1319 Thats because Ferrari get best engine in Career mode and have 2nd best drag with Red Bull - yes they have same, best drag goes to Alpine, Alpha Tauri and Haas but not majorly less, so you never really get overspeed on a Ferrari. In Gp mode Red Bull and Ferrari are the same car. In Career its the engine upgrades favouring Ferrari

Dirty air was only one 3rd of real life last year, this year it might even be a little bit too small still.. 15% maximum downforce loss in the game isnt too bad.. Just look at how much Verstappen struggled against Russel in T3 Spain.. Verstappen lost had to lift a lot or leave the slipstream when closer..
EA_Hux
Community Manager
4 years ago
Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for your input regarding the DRS, ERS and slipstream.

It's really good feedback. We will pass it on to the team