https://twitter.com/IRTe_Kristian/status/1630127695383101443 ronhaar allegationshttps://twitter.com/JimmyBroadbent/status/1633878620073762819 on carreton cheating leakhttps://twitter.com/jarno_opmeer/status/1633901319969812480?cxt=HHwWgMC97f-l5KwtAAAA opmeer reacting to carreton's statement about cheating (opmeer also quit)https://twitter.com/lukesmith75_/status/1631426089393307649 - smith showing a bug that when pausing the game, your car is faster in straightshttps://twitter.com/LucasBlakeley01/status/1633890445636911107?cxt=HHwWhoC-4YOt36wtAAAA - reigning f1 esports world champion chimes inhttps://twitter.com/FDonoso99/status/1633784629797744643?cxt=HHwWhsCzqd6dr6wtAAAAhttps://twitter.com/patriksipos_/status/1633886040707481610?cxt=HHwWlIC2vdCs3awtAAAAhttps://twitter.com/JohnEvansF1/status/1633823450216419328?cxt=HHwWgMDS_bDxwKwtAAAAhttps://twitter.com/Tom97HD/status/1633838810680430595?cxt=HHwWhsDUrb3vx6wtAAAA - not an esports driver, but a yt personaWhat are your thoughts on the situation, can anything be done moving forward or is the series just doomed?

@v8u5jco54ukpProblem is. Was it really someone from Codemasters 🤷🏻♂️. It’s very possible someone from Codemasters reached out to him. But I’m scepticalBut I very much doubt EA/Codemasters would have asked E-Sport drivers to test the cheats. When Codemasters have very capable sim drivers on their team. What’s more that know the game inside out and can directly communicate with the dev teamBoth @BarryBL and @PJTierneyCM are more than capable of testing them and being able to keep it in house. So it doesn’t accidentally get shown up on a stream

@BadMayh3m And why should I take George Morgan word for the doings and decisions of EA/CM? He's no EA or CM staff. He's the current F1 eSports narrator, a third party collaborator unfit to relay any official word.Again, my point all along from that longer post of mine a few hours ago.It's a sport and an organization in their infancy, still mangled by unprofessionalism. This

Would it honestly make any difference if Thomas put out a tweet saying that he wasn't cheating? The only response from him that actually might make any difference to the current situation is if he admitted that he was cheating.

@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:Would it honestly make any difference if Thomas put out a tweet saying that he wasn't cheating? The only response from him that actually might make any difference to the current situation is if he admitted that he was cheating.This is true but there are ways that he could have helped the scenario. For instance, it's well known that he has come from Xbox, if he still has the platform he could post time trial laps that come relatively close to the world records he's set on PC. He could show races on that platform. Yes, there'll be certain factors that may not allow it but some sort of effort to do something is good for optics.Even just acknowledgement of the issue is better than silence as silence can make someone look guilty, whether they are or not.Edit: Besides, some sort of explanation regarding his telemetry would go a long way. If he is prodigious and he may be, that it does appear that he's doing something that isn't technically possible to do in the game without an aid and also isn't setup related. Just a hint of how he's achieving would allay suspicions. Obviously eSport drivers are unlikely to give away secrets to why they're so fast but bending the game as he's doing in some instances must be noted. With Otis/Elite, we could see how he was able to get on the throttle so quickly etc

I agree. If I had eSports Champion qualities like Ronhaar I would show them on Xbox, PS or even NES if needed! And I would have done that a long time ago. Then I know it takes all kinds.However, it is a serious problem for the game, for its popularity (and even for the huge prize pools in eSports) 😞

Esports drivers quitting competative and the cheating allegations fiasco

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ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@v8u5jco54ukpYour timing is impeccable. I’ve been looking for cheat related threads to pass up the almighty ladder
TotosHeadphones
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Wowzers, that Bahrain bug is absurd. Somebody has me on ignore but I'd be interested on their take on all of it.
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@TotosHeadphones It isn’t me
TotosHeadphones
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
Haha, not you. Anyway, that's by the by.
Ultrasonic_77
Hero
3 years ago
The only positive in all of that is Alvaro Carreton's tweet about working with Codemasters/EA to try to improve the situation:
Álvaro Carretón on Twitter: "https://t.co/qqY1H87qe9" / Twitter
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
Just from Jarno video yesterday you could quite clearly see and hear just how angry he is. Which from every video I’ve seen off his it way out off character
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
Because of the videos on the cheat controversy that I’ve been watching. One of the videos popped up was the wiggle that killed tarkov. Despite never playing the game and never will. I liked the title and watched it. Now I’ve got myself properly engrossed in that controversy.

carry on 😁
Cpayne32
Hero+
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Yeah i agree. I agree with a point that TRL Limitless made in that these ESports events should really be LAN events on set PC’s rather than using their own equipment.
ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Cpayne32 Every sport has independent adjudicators that scrutinise every surrounding whichever sport. If E-Sports wants to be taken seriously as a sport it needs to do the same
Cpayne32
Hero+
3 years ago
@ScarDuck14 Yeah I absolutely agree. It’s why i don’t overall interact with ESports too much

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