F1 22 Grip Levels and Traction
In F1 22 the Level of Grip and Traction that cars have seems to be incredibly minuscule compared to f1 cars in sims such as Asseto Corsa, Iracing and even in real life: (https://www.youtube.com/watc...
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@Dan78loki exactly.
@Blackbird90 go to see onboard F1 in real life and watch accurately the throttle bar, you will be surprised...
@Blackbird90 go to see onboard F1 in real life and watch accurately the throttle bar, you will be surprised...
@PlayDjNot exactly. If you're looking for accurate pedal work, best we can get at the moment is probably the pedal cam footage from Norris' car and telemetry analysis from Joyon Palmer on F1 TV.
After that, you can get a reasonable sense for the throttle application from post-event onboard footage on youtube, the one with the circular overlay.
The live telemetry they do during the events, the one with the neat HUD over the halo, that one is low resolution and you'd get a wrong idea on how the drivers do pedal work. That's not even mentioning the brakes, the live telemetry just shows whether there's no brake pressure or any brake pressure – it's basically an on/off dataset.
- @mariohomoh Ok ok.
Anyway, in the past F1 I could drive with TC medium without spin.
Now I often spin.
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That's not even mentioning the brakes, the live telemetry just shows whether there's no brake pressure or any brake pressure – it's basically an on/off dataset.aye, i wish that one worked. Would be great for a visual example of trail braking on certain corners. Instead of 100% on / off.
- @ajobling1983 Don't sleep on Jolyon Palmer's analysis then, mate. It often goes over telemetry and the brake trace in there is more realistic.
His analysis are always partially featured on F1 Youtube channel. Guys,
Are this change in traction and tire temperatures from patch 1.06, the change that was long promised to improve traction, or is it just a stopgap and the full change is yet to come? I got lost in it- @Rgramiscelhi No, in this update they added some hat colours, some IKEA sofa, some jeans, etc.
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Is too early to fix traction... @PlayDjYour useless and mocking answer didn't help at all, nor will I waste my time on you. my native language is not English, so I'm trying to understand this question clearly, thanks for not helping at all. Can someone please clarify for me?
- @Rgramiscelhi Yes it is fixed. I am using a wheel on PC version and I can definatly tell the difference I have done fp3 and qualifying @Jeddah
in driver career mode since the patch - @Rgramiscelhi Yes, but if I'm not mistaken David Greco still wants to work on it and deliver his "full" vision in the coming weeks, but time is a issue with the league season picking up.
- @Darthsausage44 Thanks for the reply, I will test the gameplay with the new patch.
- @mariohomoh That's exactly what I wanted to know, if it's a final adjustment, or if there will be more fine-tuning in the future. Thank you for letting me know. Thank you guys.
Installed the game again after eagerly waiting and hoping for this patch to fix the grip & torque issues and oh my, it really somehow got even worse.
I used to play on AI 95 in previous years and did fine. Now I'm here at AI 78, one full second behind every train program delta in Baku. Before the patch, it was a few tenths at worse. At other tracks, it was the complete opposite and I was 2sec ahead at a circuit like Silverstone. It's just an inconsistent mess.
This game is pretty much unplayable with a gamepad now. Full TC was fine, maybe a little too strong in previous editions, but this year it's utterly useless and not helping with grip at all. The patch did nothing to improve that. You can literally feel the massive wheelspin coming out of every turn and the PS4 gamepad just lacks sensitivity to handle it, no matter how careful you are. I played around with the calibrations already, setting linearity as high as possible and experimenting around with saturation, it doesn't help anything either.
Very disappointed by F1 2022, by this patch and it will be my last F1 game for the foreseeable future. It delivers no fun at all when playing with a gamepad. I guess it just isn't suited for the more casual gamers with pad and full TC anymore and moves all focus to the more professional gaming setups.
- @OsgoodCB From my informations, AI is performing better after 1.06 patch because it was trained to perform a little bit better, so they are a little faster. AI straight line speed in career/my team was not fixed in 1.06 patch, from what i know it will come in another patch. Try GP mode to see your AI level, there it's not that problem with AI straight line speed, the same problem i had my self too, GP mode AI 90, won Bahrain easily, in career AI 90 and i made it only to P6 in quali and i stopped playing (i am not a big fan of career anyway). Now in GP mode i win races on 100 AI level or even 102.
- @OsgoodCB I agree with the inconsistency, particularly between AI performance between Practice/Quali/Race.
Not sure about the TC though. I don't use TC at all on either pad or wheel and it's fine. Full TC I find it impossible to get any wheel spin at all. My guess is that the issue you're having with spinning isn't with TC not working and possibly more due to using too much curb and unsettling the car. The curbs in this game have a much bigger effect that previous iterations. @KVNR01it's not about the curbs, no.The best example is that it happens heavily at the race start.
In F1 2021, with full TC you'd just blow away every other car at the start. Now it's a lot more difficult to get off the line (even though they finally made it easier to keep the right rpm with the gamepad).
And it's terrible coming out of slow corners, even when not going over the curbs at all. Force feedback of the PS4 pad gives a good feeling of the wheelspin, but I just can't do anything about it. It pretty much fits what was described in the 1st post of this thread.
...which is why it is a true nightmare on tracks like Baku, where you go through all these slow 90° corners on a low grip track. And I try to completely avoid the curbs in most corners there.- @OsgoodCB In my case it was completely the opposite, 90 degrees turns are where the AI absolutely suck, it was those heavy traction corners where you needed to be full throttle while turning relatively hard, which during pre-patch you could spin out even in 6th gear.
- @KVNR01 well the whole car spinning around is no issue, like I don't spin off track or anything. It happens in acceleration, right after a corner, when the car is pointed straight again and trying to put the power down. Then the wheels definitely spin for about 50m maybe, which is confirmed by the force feedback vibration you get with spinning wheels on the PS4.
It happened in previous games, too but not as harsh as this year. Now the lack of grip, especially compared to the AI being glued to the tarmac, is way too extreme.
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