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- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend@Dinaatio If using TV. Try Turning off any display setting that analysis and adjusts picture in real time. And any other settings like contrast enhancer, black adjust, I had occasional stuttering until I turned off peak luminance. Ideally you want the display information from your console to be displayed exactly as it was sent. Fancy tv settings will display the picture how it thinks it should look.
- @ScarDuck14 Yeah unfortunately I’m using a Samsung Odyssey G5 monitor and don’t have any fancy settings enabled. No other game that I’ve played does this on either 60 or 120 fps.
- ScarDuck143 years agoLegend
@Dinaatiobut not many games have you driving at ridiculously fast speeds a few inches from the ground plus Walls at street circuits won’t higher frame rates off 120 upwards. Being sent from one machine(PC/console) to another (TV/monitor) where in most cases both were designed and built by different manufacturers using different hardware/software: Monitors are better because like you say they have minimal settings so don’t interfere with the information it’s displaying:
But Smart TVs with so many different display setting plus third party tv apps always running in the background that can cause issues with games frame rates.
Not to mention you always get the guy ( my best mate) who has the super expensive best and latest Pc and Monitor then use cheap 3 for £5 leads/cables they bought From Amazon 🤷♂️
My first post Was actually replying to OP ( didn’t notice I used quick reply and tagged you . I do apologise)as he/she or non binary said they were using an Xbox and most consoles are generally connected to a tv😀 Forgive my ignorance of XBOX S/X but does something need to be done to enable VRR? Provided the screen supports this I'd expect VRR to prevent significant screen tearing...
- REDRA-113 years agoNew Vanguard
@Dinaatio I dont't think there is anything to do. The game just doesn't run as smoothly as F1 2021 in performance mode.
@Ultrasonic_77 You need to have VRR enabled in the console settings and on the TV. Usually, games don't show anything about VRR, but most TV manufacturers have added some monitoring tools that allow you to see the framerate.
- REDRA-113 years agoNew Vanguard
I have tried Performance mode after update 1.12 and it's the same.
Another thing I've noticed is that if you switch graphics modes and play without restarting the game, there is stuttering and tearing in Quality mode as well. If you restart the game, Quality mode is fine and Performance mode seems to run somewhat smoother as well, so it seems something is not working properly when switching graphics modes, but it gets sorted out with a game restart.
- @REDRA-11 Can confirm the quality mode switch part. I have tearing with it as well when I’ve switched to it. There’s definitely something wrong.
So, what you’re saying is that for the ”smoothest” experience I should enable quality mode, restart the game and switch to performance? @Dinaatio @REDRA-11 I have been experiencing EXACTLY the same issue since august. The past week it started to bug me a lot and I wen't a bit down the rabbit whole with console settings. I use vrr so I can track the fps throughout the lap and Bahrain is the worst by far. Vrr does not solve the issue because a new problem arrives: big fps drops. The fps drop from 100 approx to 60-58 and vrr is not able to smoothen out such big drop su you get a big stutter. However there are two partial solutions to this problem, but both are ridiculous. The first and most effective is to have a game in quick resume. When I open any game before F1 22 and just leave it in the menus or paused, and then switch to F1 22, the game runs at 120 fps flawlessly, not drops, stutters or tearing, perfect 120 fps and the experience is a bliss. The second solution which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't is to use flashback. I have found out that if you use flashback it sometimes gets the 120 fps and runs smoothly for the rest of the session. Like I said, both solutions are ridiculous. I was thinking it was my Xbox series x and was about to send it for repairs, but knowing you have the same issue is somewhat comforting.
It is really annoying that the issue has been here since august, bought the game that month so no previous information on how it ran before, however I was able to run an early version of the game as I have the disc version. I reinstalled it and did not update, played the game and it was SMOOTH 120 fps in all circuits and game modes, sooo smooth. Like I said, the version was a very early version, as a matter of fact Mercedes, Red Bull and Ferrari all had the generic My Team car design, the same one it appears on the back of the disc box. EA must have dropped the ball somewhere in an update and have refused to fix it but rather give us new liveries every month.
However I have another theory which is before I bought the disc version I played the EA play trial from Gamepass. I don't know if owning that version and the disc one causes the game to work this bad, but it's a theory.
Well, sorry for the long post, but I had to put this out in the open as I think it is a serious bug that makes the game unplayable and not enjoyable at all.
Edit: This happens also in races, not only time trial. The game just can't hit the 120 fps in performance mode.
- @matiassuau96
I too thought there was something wrong with my Xbox at first. I’m curious to why this is happening to us. Majority of the players must experience that smooth 120fps since we’re not seeing more of these posts. I’ll try the things you mentioned tomorrow and report back. It’s really great news if there’s even a weird work around that exists. Good job on finding these.
Wonder if there’s something we have in common that’s causing this. I don’t think the EA trial is that thing since I didn’t participate in it. Although I do believe I have EA play at the moment, that could do something. I’m pretty sure it’s not display, controller, wheel or headset related that’s causing this since I’ve switched all these around.
One thing that comes to mind is deleting all data from the manage game tab (not the in-game ’delete save data’) and then reinstalling, not sure if it would make a difference. And you’d lose everything you’ve saved of course. @Dinaatio I can answer that, it doesn't work. I deleted everything in every possible way (all possible xbox dashboard ways and inside the game itself). I even tried using a different account, but again nothing. Lost everything, but I was only in Imola in the first season of My Team. I haven't been able to play that much, 50% races require a lot of energy. The peripherals part is interesting because I game on controller and no wheel or headset so that is clearly not the case. Maybe it is the Xbox after all and we are trying to blame EA, but Ockham's razors says otherwise, it must be EA. I don't know if this is the case with you, but I hate having multiple games opened. I play a game and immediately close it. It's a habit I have from PS4 of closing applications and only having the game I am playing running. So maybe all these people take advantage of Quick Resume and we do not. Also, I always unplug my Xbox at night because I don't trust my apartment's old wiring and country's power grid (Chile). I prefer to unplug it than have a fried Xbox. Maybe that also could be the reason, but I sincerely doubt it because power cycling the console helps rather than hurts. Like I said before, Ockham's razor states that EA are the problem here and not the Xbox.
- @matiassuau96 I am the same way as you, always having only one thing open at the time.
After experimenting with your method of having something open in the backgroud I can confirm that you’re onto something. I tried a few things and found something interesting. I had the game open, TT on Bahrain, the usual stuttering test circuit. I’m on 1440p/120hz on performance mode and it’s stuttering as usual. I then paused the game and went to Xbox Home, opened Youtube and once it’s opened I opened up the game again. No stuttering like you said. Now we never closed youtube but it sort of auto closes itself (there’s no ”quit” on the menu either) so it shouldn’t be causing any ”extra stress” since it’s not actually open anymore.
Don’t know if you were aware of this but I think this might be the best we’ve got. Clearly a some sort of problem with the game on XsX. I haven’t been able to test much yet so I’m not sure if the this fixes the issue for the whole play session. But at least temporarily it works, without having anything open in the background. I’m eager to hear how it works for you guys. @Dinaatio YouTube worked fine, I just don't get it why we can't run the game at 120fps in performance mode. I was reading some forums in Codemasters website on F1 2021 and several people had a very similar issue with stuttering and fps drops. I don't know if it was solved by EA. Yet again, I still don't discard a console issue.
- @matiassuau96 I don’t know how to check the exact live fps but are we getting that 120fps with the youtube trick?
And I’ve tried other games with 120fps and they have worked flawlessly, so it’d be very strange and seem unlikely to me that this could be a console issue. Since F1 22 is the only game that I’ve had fps problems. We could try to ask Microsoft support but they probably won’t know any better. @Dinaatio YouTube locks the game at 120fps. This issue is really starting to bug me a lot.
@Dinaatio Been playing Grid Legends and Dirt 5 and not a single frame has been dropped by my Xbox. It's clearly the game now.
- REDRA-113 years agoNew Vanguard
I tried it again and it seems that most of the stuttering and tearing that appears after switching graphics modes is gone after a game restart. I also checked the PS5 version and it doesn't have this problem with switching graphics modes. It seems that having the desired graphics mode set before starting the game doesn't guarantee the game works properly. It still stutters and tears on the 1st start after turning on the console until quitting and restarting it. @EA_Kent
@REDRA-11 That doesn't work for me, the fps drops still are there. However the YouTube glitch works perfectly. This is absolutely ridiculous, the fact that the game needs another app or game running to be able to detect the 120fps is surreal. Also that somehow EA representatives in this forum have spent several days, even weeks to check and reply is incredible. At this point I have just given up on the idea that we will receive support and we will have this till F1 23, if we have the energy to buy another EA game. These reasons are why I stopped playing FIFA. Year after year the same issues and even new ones. Seems that EA have destroyed another franchise. Alos EA Help on Twitter is a joke, a joke. @EA_Kent @CM_TGK
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