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sc31245's avatar
sc31245
3 years ago

Re: Fuel Consumption

Same problem with fuel calibration on the PS4 in My Team.  

Yesterday at Jeddah:

  • Race Strategy Program  -- 1.87 kg / lap, 93.5 kg for a full race distant of 50 laps
  • Pre-race Strategy Screen -- Fuel Load 93.5 kg fuel, "55 laps"

I fueled up with 94 kg for the race and my HUD shows that I'm plus 5.3 laps of fuel at the start of the race.  By the end of the race I was just under + 2 laps of fuel (there was a safety car and the usual traffic at Jeddah, so I burned quite a bit less than 1.87 kg per lap).  So the glitch is that the amount of fuel used per lap isn't calibrated according to the results of the Race Strategy program as it should be.

This is not a big problem if you pay attention to how much fuel you're burning in practice and on the Race Strategy program and fuel up accordingly....

...but it is a real problem if you'd like to start a bit under-fueled as you can' t tell where you are on fuel until it's too late (unless you do a lot of math during the race, which is no fun).

9 Replies

  • SexyBrigadeiro's avatar
    SexyBrigadeiro
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @sc31245 

    "So the glitch is that the amount of fuel used per lap     isn't calibrated according to the results of the Race Strategy program as it should be."

    Exactly!

    But I'm glad this seems to be another confirmation that by checking the numbers after the Race Strat. Prog. we can still put the right amount of fuel for the race - although it's a shame the game is not doing it properly for us and then we can't try a few 'variations' for the fuel strategy properly.

    And it also confirms (even more) it's not platform related either, but it's still weird that it affects people 'randomly', regardless of their platform..

    Cheers and good racing, mate!

  • MrPaulHellion's avatar
    MrPaulHellion
    New Traveler
    3 years ago

    Definitely seems something in the race strategy that doesn't calculate the correct amount of fuel used per lap. 

    I've now done the Miami race, once again decided to forego doing the race strategy in practice. This time I started with +1.6. By the end of the race, I'd only just gone below 1.0. 

    I'm fairly confident in saying that whenever I have done the race strategy prog, I've ended up burning fuel at a MUCH faster rate per lap than when I don't do it, even taking into account short shifts and lift and coast. 

    Should add I'm on PS5. 

  • SexyBrigadeiro's avatar
    SexyBrigadeiro
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @MrPaulHellion

    Yes, it seems that either doing the Race Strategy Program or not, the game is NOT being able to calculate the exact fuel amount (and the correct projected number of laps) for the race, on that pre-race screen, where we select the strategy, etc..

    So, once again, the only trustable values I found so far, are the ones circled in green and blue, on this post:

    https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Fuel-Consumption/m-p/11923258#M15437

    In this case, it IS important to actually do the Race Strat. Prog. so the game/prog will give you those values after you complete all 5 laps - it's also very important that you do it keeping a very similar (or stronger) pace than the pace you'd be keeping during the actual race, just for safety and more precise calculations.

    If the game is actually showing you trustable and precise values on the pre-race screen, then you don't have the 'glitch' and you don't need to worry - cheers!
    =)
  • P4st3l1ak's avatar
    P4st3l1ak
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    Guys, do you think this "glitch" may be related to particular Powertrain upgrades, or because you haven't installed it yet?

    There are few Fuel Efficiency and Energy Recovery upgrades (e.g. flow, injectors, stators, etc.) which may have an impact on fuel consumption.

    I know, it makes no sense it would differ between RS programme and actual race, especially when you drive more sensitively during the race than you drove in programme. But you never know.

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @P4st3l1ak I was thinking that may have been the issue as I always leave upgrading my powertrain until I’ve maxed chassis and aero. But it’s made no difference as I upgraded the last half dozen or so powertrain upgrades
  • MrPaulHellion's avatar
    MrPaulHellion
    New Traveler
    3 years ago

    I've installed every upgrade on the power train that the player can physically do themselves, I have only one supplier upgrade left to come which from memory I don't believe relates directly to fuel. I'd have to check on that. So in my case at least it can't be because I haven't installed the upgrades. Doesn't necessarily mean the upgrades are working as they're supposed to, I guess. 

  • DRudd13's avatar
    DRudd13
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @SexyBrigadeiro
    Not saying you're wrong in any way, shape or form. But does the calculations not add on a lap to the grid, formation lap and whatever sample is needed by the FIA at the end of a race.
    I've always went off the race strat program.
  • SexyBrigadeiro's avatar
    SexyBrigadeiro
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @P4st3l1ak 

    It's not related to any of the Fuel Efficiency or Powertrain upgrades, because the problem started to happen to me after my car was already fully upgraded.

    The calculations were ok and the projected number of laps for each amount of fuel were corrected until Patch 1.10 hit, so.. whatever caused it, it's certainly patch related.

    What is weird is why it affects only a few people in different platforms.

    But once again, the fuel calculation itself is ok - especially after doing the Race Strategy Program and keeping an eye on the values shown on the little result screen for "Average Fuel Burn" and "Race Fuel Load" - these two values are 100% trustable (glitch or no glitch) and the player can use these to know exactly how much total fuel they should carry for the race - the actual glitch is the weird number shown for the projected laps with each fuel load at the pre-race strategy screen.

    Everything is better explained (and kind of 'solved') here in this post, with pics, etc..

    https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Fuel-Consumption/m-p/11923258#M15437

    ...

    @DRudd13 

    No, mate, that's not the extra fuel for the formation lap - for 2 main reasons:

    - I don't do the formation lap - but even if I did..

    - That's waaaaaay too much extra fuel for just 1 lap that's taken on a lower speed..

    As I said on the paragraph at the top, the actual fuel calculation itself is 'ok' and the actual problem is only with the projected laps shown for said fuel during the pre-race strategy screen - there is already a 'solution' to what's happening and a way to put the correct fuel load before the race, even if the game shows you weird values for the projected laps on the pre-race screen - just check the link I put above as well.

    Cheers, everyone!

  • Tribladez's avatar
    Tribladez
    3 years ago
    @MrPaulHellion wrote:

    I'm fairly confident in saying that whenever I have done the race strategy prog, I've ended up burning fuel at a MUCH faster rate per lap than when I don't do it, even taking into account short shifts and lift and coast. 

    After a lot of co-op career, I completely agree with this:

     - Don't run the strategy program: Fuel usage makes sense (i.e. over fuel the car near the start of the career; under fuel it once the fuel efficiency upgrades are applied)

     - Run the strategy program: Fuel usage goes through the roof regardless of the car upgrades: Suddenly I'm using five extra laps of fuel at Monaco and coasting half of every lap just to stay positive.

    Season 3 of our co-op career, where you're forced to go to track at Bahrain for FP1, we both ran the race strategy program and both quickly went into negative fuel remaining despite both starting on +2.5 laps of fuel. Every other race in the season, we've done quick practice instead and have had zero issues with fuel, generally starting at +0 laps extra at the start of the race, and ending +1/2 laps over.

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