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LuckyNico92
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago

Why F1 2020 was so good (and why Codies need to go that road again)

To any former major CM Forum people (like @BarryBL), as well as all other people reading this: I need to say something... As you guys know, I love the F1 games franchise, but at the same time, I cr...
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ScarDuck14
Legend
3 years ago
@Amioram Aliens, 👽😀I watch a lot off Their YouTube videos and The likes off Jarno who top 1% off the Aliens post videos off their my team careers.. Firstly brings in extra cash and helps raises their and E-Sports profile. Secondly it’s practice to keep them sharp. thirdly for them racing against the ai on 110 is better and more reliable than racing against humans in public lobbies. OMG how dare I. Well 110 ai is faster than most humans In Multiplayer. All ai cars not only manage race starts without lighting up their rears and spinning out off control. They for the most part will all make it through the first corner without causing carnage: once the race settles down the ai will generally lap without issue they won’t decide to spice things up by trying to ram into other cars cause they think it’s funny. Fourth the ai lap times consistently be within a few tenths. They will stay on the racing line. Unless attempting a pass or defending a corner. They will also push when chasing you during. And then last off all. Jarno for instance starts as a newcomer which means the car he’s driving is the out off the box my team car. Which is a big fat slow dog off a car. Handling is awful so acceleration and top speed. Not to mention parts fail and wear so during first season your often racing with worn parts that slow your pace or your Having to take new parts meaning penalties. So your starting at the back.

And also jarno as you know is a multiple e-sports champion. In his first season off he my team career. Generally only gets into second qualifying if it’s raining. As he is the rain master. During 50% race until his car get upgrades and climbs the performance rankings he doesn’t even get into the points. Compare to the videos he posts when he’s in multiplayer lobbies starting last and ends up leading the race inside3 laps
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drewgriffiths
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago

I have to disagree on all points made and here’s why

Firstly, racing against AI won’t raise their profile. Take Jarno for example. Racing AI won’t raise his profile, racing against real F1 drivers would. Secondly, it wont keep them sharp. AI behave differently to humans and drive more robotic and predictable. AI in Grand Prix 4 was better and that game was out more than 20 years ago. Thirdly, racing against 110 AI isn’t more reliable than the human opponents they’ll take seriously. No eSport player worth their salt will practice their skills against randoms or AI and call it good practice. They’ll personally know who they practice against and they’ll all be very competent players. To support this, I’ll switch sports and please bear with me on this. It’s been a few years since I played proper darts having dart it is but I reached a very high level where I started to average over 100 at proper tournaments and was told to go to PDC Q School to get a Pro Tour Card, I even played against Phil Taylor. I would never practice using an app against AI for the same reason why eSports drivers shouldn’t practice against AI. Robotic and very poor decision making. AI might put up good laps by themselves in racing like putting up 100s, 140s and 180s in darts but then in racing, AI get bullied too easy, don’t properly defend, brake too early and hand you positions just like AI in darts make terrible decisions while on scores like 303, 306, 343 etc. My point is, regardless of the sport or even eSport, any top competitor worth their salt should be practicing against similar skilled human opponents. Jarno will know this so won’t bother seriously practicing in open lobbies or against AI that behave differently and make terrible decisions routinely.

Agree to disagree I think

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    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @drewgriffiths Being a presence on you tube raises his profile. My team is one of if not the most commonly played mode. So people will watch and do watch. And he gets money from YouTube for it. The reason e-sports drivers are elite is because they put the hours in. I didn’t say the ai are as fast as e-sports drivers. Just fast than most human players. He doesn’t race driver career mode because the F1 team cars are decent compared to my team car. By playing myteam he’s on purposely handicapping himself so he can’t do. last to first races in like he does against 110 ai in gp mode. Which still takes him longer than when he races in humans in public Lobbies.

    He’s and other e-sport drivers post their my team careers on YouTube. It’s the closest they have to competitive racing inbetween competitive league and e-sports races against proper sim racers.

    He can do fast tt laps at will. Winning long races isn’t about putting in the fastest lap. It’s about consistently putting in lap after lap all within 3 tenths. He could do that easily in TT but in a my team shed off a car with ai lapping him by over a second a lap keeps him sharp. He wouldn’t do it otherwise.

    When he races on the public multiplayer lobbies: he never does more than a 5 lap race. Because within 3 laps he’s beating everyone: In my team he does the same distance as e-sport races. There’s a clue.

    Marcel Keifer in a interview says he’s much prefer to always race other human racers. But he can never find single races that have more than a couple decent racers. They are good because they race for hours everyday. Perfecting their craft. They don’t just wait for scheduled league races.

    110ai not as reliable as guys in public lobbies. If half off 20 human drivers make the first corner without incident is a good start. Not convinced Jarno Opmeer has plenty off my team vids to browse

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