New Tactics are worse than old one for me

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I get what EA wanted to do with the new tactics, but it is way way worse and more restrictive than ever.

Several issues for me:

Box to Box: Does not work, the stand around offensively as well as defensively
Central Midfielders in general rarely go into attack, unless triggered with L1
Strangely some player do make sometimes runs, i tested like almost 10 CM and only Giugliano makes sometimes runs
LM and RM do not track back at all, like almost all winger settings
Inside Forwards still just stand on the wing nearby Fullback and wait for the ball BEHIND THE FULLBACK, almost no movement inside or very late
Shadow Striker rarely making runs. I tried Dybala with ++ and its barely better.
Fullbacks are utterly useless as soon as you let the get forward with a role just a little and don't track back well
CDM run to the wing in defense and open huge gaps even though i play 41212 and there are 2 CM and the FB is still back there

I play only with 4 line defense and tried some 3 and 5 back because people said its overpower. I disagree, its even worse, since CB leave huge gaps between them.

For me whats most missing is the orders like: Get back or get forward. and the setting how many players join attack.

emack1414 · Answer

@Scalios I really hope they can address this. I believe the game has gotten some things right with the weight of players and pace of play. But the stactiness brought by the new tactics is almost game breaking. Like you said, midfielders don't participate in the attack and can't cover the middle, I can't change the position of midfielders which is bogus especially if they are staying in the same spot, we should be able to move players where we want, inside forwards just stand on the edge of the box, forward players rarely make runs in behind. We could do all of this on the old tactics system.

The with the ball tactic seems useless as well since you can't change formations without the ball.

brebike · Answer

Actually, the initial name of the 'Tactics' screen was the 'EA thinks you're too stupid to set up your own squad, so we created something that looks very cool, but doesn't do jack *'-menu. Unfortunately, their servers couldn't handle a long name like that, so after 3 updates to get rid of all the bugs, they managed to change the name to 'Tactics'.

Seriously, EA... if there was one thing that actually worked in the '24 game, it was the ability to customize your team entirely.

With this crap, defense is not existing, and there's nothing you can do about it. Midfielders don't atrack along and there's nothing you can do about it. Don't throw away stuff that was working, for something that will probably again take a few years before it is finally useable. There are more than enough other things that could use some improvement in the fc games

scalios · Answer

I know what you mean. My hope was that, like in the old system with chemistry, that if for example you start Dyballa in CAM as Shadow Striker with ++, that with another tactic you could move him to any position without penalty like in past and still get ++ for any other role you select.

Also when i first saw with and without ball I was hoping that i can define a separate formation and roles for with and without ball and the switch would happen automatically, unfortunately not.

Its just strange, this is ultimate team everything should be possible.

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