Hey there,So this is my first post ever here on the forums, and I am most likely going to set myself up for a "skill issue"-comment, if any comment at all. Although, I gotta say that several of the new changes made to FuT, have made it so that casual players do not seem to have any place in this year's game. Obviously, I do not speak for all, as some will most likely see it differently, but with changes such as a max of 12 Squad Battle matches instead of the 34 (games where you're rewarded for your time spent), have placed a game-breaking limit for the players who focused mostly on that. Additionally, we now have to play 15 matches in rivals, instead of 7, in order to get the weekly rewards, which also in most divisions seems like a hoax, given the fact that we are rewarded with loan players, unless we are playing in division 5 or higher, which I can almost guarantee that most casual players do not.With 12 years of having played FuT and Fifa/FC in general, to support my arguments, I think it is very likely that EA is going to lose a massive amount of players as a result of these new changes to FuT, as it kills any semblance of motivation to play, so I hope it gets seen and taken into thorough consideration. Lastly, I've also seen some comments saying that EA are seemingly pushing the pro aspect of the game further, with these changes, which seem to make decent sense. I do not really see what EA hopes to achieve from that, as less than 1% of the playerbase are playing it on a professional level.

@Leelongy73 wrote:Most people are not saying "they want 40 games in every mode". What people are saying, especially the casual players, is that they want more Squad Battles and less Rivals wins for rewards. For example, EA could've said 20 Squad Battles per week and 10 Rivals wins. But it went more extreme, with 12 Squad Battles, 15 Rivals wins. I'm not considering weekend league because EA has said that Champs is only for the best players, which will not include most casual players. Casual players, by nature, won't be trading all day long and doing every SBC available. EA just seems to have gone out of its way to alienate the majority of its customers, which is a very odd business strategy!I agree. Im a causual player who loves the idea of building a football team with icons and current players and that is the draw of it for me but i dont want the stress or hassle of playing online as it really raises my anxiety levels and i just like to chill and play 5 or 6 squad battles a night and do a few SBC's and i dont care that i dont get a team as good as those who do rivals and champions as my team is for me and nobody else but i also know that if i want a better team its there if i want it. I think that 12 matches is a big loss to the casual player. For me UT was the best way to dive in and play casual matches without having to manage a team or do training as a player and just enjoy playing football. If it stays like this i think this will be my last version.

The issue with only having 12 squad battle matches (that give rewards) though, is that you have next to no room for mistakes, if you want to reach the better rewards. This means that most casual players need to pull out their best teams, instead of having the room to test out different styles, or use the squad battles to complete various objectives.

Most people are not saying "they want 40 games in every mode". What people are saying, especially the casual players, is that they want more Squad Battles and less Rivals wins for rewards. For example, EA could've said 20 Squad Battles per week and 10 Rivals wins. But it went more extreme, with 12 Squad Battles, 15 Rivals wins. I'm not considering weekend league because EA has said that Champs is only for the best players, which will not include most casual players. Casual players, by nature, won't be trading all day long and doing every SBC available. EA just seems to have gone out of its way to alienate the majority of its customers, which is a very odd business strategy!

I agree with the squad battles not having enough games. The prior amount was probably too much. I could always make elite 1 in the past if I played all of the games and would make elite 2 playing about 3/4 the games. This year I have finished in Elite 3 each time because of losing just one game I tried to play at legendary level. Also the problem is that with one of my recent refreshes I did not get any easy games. I had two games with 85 rated squads, one with an 87, and one with an 88. That makes it very difficult. I think it would be much better to have 20 games available, that is still more than half of what it was previously. Also EA should make the game refreshes more even for everyone. Of the four games, the first random squad should be a bronze/silver level, the second random squad should be a silver/ low gold level, the third random squad should be a mid gold around 80 to 84, and the final random game 86/87 or higher. This would make it so everyone is playing similar level games.

Conduct a survey of casual players, or just read through the posts on here and on social media - I'll wager my mortgage that the majority want to play more Squad Battles and less Rivals. For EA to ignore that...well, as a business strategy, it's condemning itself.

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RadioShaqs
Hero
10 months ago
@thelaeby Less squad battle games is so helpful as a casual player. Making rivals more games not so much.
thelaeby
10 months ago
The issue with only having 12 squad battle matches (that give rewards) though, is that you have next to no room for mistakes, if you want to reach the better rewards. This means that most casual players need to pull out their best teams, instead of having the room to test out different styles, or use the squad battles to complete various objectives.
RadioShaqs
Hero
10 months ago
@thelaebyCasual players don’t have time to play 40 wl 40 squad battles 40 rivals and do sbcs and trade all day. Being able to play only 12 matches gives casuals time to compete.
Forgot 40 friendlies too. At least after the 12 you can keep playing if you have time. You no longer have to play 40. It’s nice ea finally made a change for casuals.
thelaeby
10 months ago
@RadioShaqs I think you're missing my point, with the lack of opportunity to complete objectives and it being a stressfest etc.
But at least we can agree in regards to 15 rivals wins being too much (that's if you win every game), compared to the 7 wins last year! 😞
RadioShaqs
Hero
10 months ago
@thelaeby That’s what I am saying less is more casual friendly. You can always play past the 12 for objectives.

When people saying they want 40 games of every mode for casuals doesn’t make sense to me who got time to play 160 games a week. Surely not casuals.

All the modes should be 12.
WolvesDave8
10 months ago
This game stopped being for real football fans years ago. EA25 is another downgrade, if you’re not one of the 98% of people who play as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City etc, forget it. Auto-rebound, tackle immunity, redirecting passes and basically changing the laws of physics to benefit the teams EA think are “blessed” (which bizarrely includes the USMNT!).
This used to be a real football simulation game where you could play as your favorite team against other football fans and have some great fun. Now it’s a platform for people who can master the 14 pages of “skill moves” to show their controller expertise. Woooooow, aren’t you special!
The game doesn’t even understand what an own goal is!
Once there’s a real alternative I’ll joyfully dispense with my annual waste of money!
Leelongy73
New Ace
10 months ago
Most people are not saying "they want 40 games in every mode". What people are saying, especially the casual players, is that they want more Squad Battles and less Rivals wins for rewards. For example, EA could've said 20 Squad Battles per week and 10 Rivals wins. But it went more extreme, with 12 Squad Battles, 15 Rivals wins. I'm not considering weekend league because EA has said that Champs is only for the best players, which will not include most casual players. Casual players, by nature, won't be trading all day long and doing every SBC available. EA just seems to have gone out of its way to alienate the majority of its customers, which is a very odd business strategy!
Sparx_M
New Novice
10 months ago
@Leelongy73 wrote:
Most people are not saying "they want 40 games in every mode". What people are saying, especially the casual players, is that they want more Squad Battles and less Rivals wins for rewards. For example, EA could've said 20 Squad Battles per week and 10 Rivals wins. But it went more extreme, with 12 Squad Battles, 15 Rivals wins. I'm not considering weekend league because EA has said that Champs is only for the best players, which will not include most casual players. Casual players, by nature, won't be trading all day long and doing every SBC available. EA just seems to have gone out of its way to alienate the majority of its customers, which is a very odd business strategy!
I agree. Im a causual player who loves the idea of building a football team with icons and current players and that is the draw of it for me but i dont want the stress or hassle of playing online as it really raises my anxiety levels and i just like to chill and play 5 or 6 squad battles a night and do a few SBC's and i dont care that i dont get a team as good as those who do rivals and champions as my team is for me and nobody else but i also know that if i want a better team its there if i want it. I think that 12 matches is a big loss to the casual player. For me UT was the best way to dive in and play casual matches without having to manage a team or do training as a player and just enjoy playing football. If it stays like this i think this will be my last version.
RRRovers
Seasoned Ace
10 months ago
I agree with the squad battles not having enough games. The prior amount was probably too much. I could always make elite 1 in the past if I played all of the games and would make elite 2 playing about 3/4 the games. This year I have finished in Elite 3 each time because of losing just one game I tried to play at legendary level. Also the problem is that with one of my recent refreshes I did not get any easy games. I had two games with 85 rated squads, one with an 87, and one with an 88. That makes it very difficult. I think it would be much better to have 20 games available, that is still more than half of what it was previously. Also EA should make the game refreshes more even for everyone. Of the four games, the first random squad should be a bronze/silver level, the second random squad should be a silver/ low gold level, the third random squad should be a mid gold around 80 to 84, and the final random game 86/87 or higher. This would make it so everyone is playing similar level games.
RadioShaqs
Hero
10 months ago
@Leelongy73 The problem is people who say casual were playing 40 games on beginner. It’s not about time it’s about being able to play more games than someone else.

If you play 12 or 40 at the same level and so does everyone else it doesn’t matter how many games it could be 800 you would get the same spot.

What’ is happening now is more casuals are play all 12 games so someone who played 40 on beginner is dropping lower. That’s fine if you want it to be who plays more but that’s not casual.

Right now rivals is only 1 more win than the 14 in squad battles and most won’t be playing champs so it’s not that many more games.

More games won’t help casuals.