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xelos2
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8 hours ago

The Gameplay Is A Disaster. I'll Tell You Why in Detail.

The gameplay update after the gameplay refresh update – very ironically - is a disaster. I will tell you why in detail below with video examples. 

Please note that I am complaining about this here because most of the problems did not occur in the initial versions of this game. In other words, you can fix these problems if you are willing to.

Note that all the examples were recorded with the following configurations:

  • Mode: single manager career mode (ManUtd)
  • Difficulty: legendary
  • Slider: simulation mode (weather effect off)

A. Body & Foot Position

This problem is one of the most serious problems that makes the game really unrealistic. Look at the example video below.

https://youtu.be/O-AhPMbOgew

De Jong passes to a winger, and the winger passes back to the center back. Look at the center back's body position–he is looking upward. And look at how he passes to De Jong. He isn't turning his body, and passes the ball with awkward inside motion. And then, he receives the ball with heel not even looking at the ball. This never happens in real-world.

So, what would be the correct motion? The center back's body should have been headed towards the leftward (attacking direction), and passed to De Jong with inside foot. I attach another video that shows this problem.

https://youtu.be/aZMXZk-SeDM

Again, this problem did not occur or was not particularly irritating in the initial versions.

B. Defense Problem

After the update, the defense became increasingly weird. Let's look at the examples. 

https://youtu.be/FQOdz56pqyY

In this video, until the forward takes the shot, no defender tries to stop him even though the situation is urgent. As a result, I scored a lot of goals (e.g., 5 goals in the first half with legendary difficulty), which makes the game very unrealistic. 

Here's another video that shows a different issue. Look at the defensive line. It's way too low. Additionally, no midfielder helped the defensive line. As a result, shooting is free. I scored 5 goals in the first half with legendary difficulty. I turned off the game immediately. 

https://youtu.be/_kxqs6k7WVA

And you can see the body & foot position problem here again. Take a look at how the winger gives a return pass. Outside pass with left foot. In professional football games, it never happens.

C. Skating

I liked the initial versions because the players were heavy;  they didn’t feel floaty. But right after the gameplay refresh update, they became very floaty. The players feel like they are skating.

https://youtu.be/Szluc1GRmTg

In real football games, the successive rate of dribble is very low; even Ronaldinho had 40% of dribble success rate. Therefore, I believe the first approach you took was the right direction. The goal must be made by passes and tactics rather than dribble. Dribbling should be just an option. 

The players respond too sensitively to my joystick, making the dribbling feel too twitchy and overly reactive.

https://youtu.be/tUtdJFR3Mbo

I understand a large number of players want faster players and more dribbles. In this case, I propose two solutions.

First, clearly distinguish classic mode from simulation mode with defined slider values. Second, don't listen to the players, because they need to learn how to play with passes and tactics; that's football.

In conclusion, I very much miss the old versions as they were providing a very realistic football experience to me. I feel like a kid whose piece of cake was stolen by someone

Again, these problems did not exist in the initial versions (and I remember TU#7 was quite okay).

Please fix the problems as soon as possible. 

3 Replies

  • Agree! The running is like 100mph gameplay 

    every year the 1st version is ok and they do change after change and it becomes a joke 

    i haven’t completed a full season in years because it just gets stupid updates 

    jan update was like this massive one and I thought finally they might solve! Nope disaster… 

    Surely they know by now what’s best configuration of this game is…. And it’s not what they are shifting out…. 

  • YYS-l-7's avatar
    YYS-l-7
    New Traveler
    7 hours ago

    Great post.

    There have been countless threads of how they ruined the gameplay after this horrific Refresh patch by making it so unrealistic and arcady that it's literally unplayable for me. Sliders do nothing to save it either.

    Credit to you for breaking it down in detail but unfortunately the only thing we'll get is for an EA admin to ignore thst anything is wrong and worse, even mark this thread as solved. It's embarrassing.

    I bought the game after staying away from it for 3 years because I played it at a family members house and was surprised how much improvement they made in the gameplay making it reasonably realistic and then within 3 months they made it in to an absolute s* show.

    I for one won't be buying this game for another few years again until they actually solve this problem of not turning a FOOTBALL game in to ping pong but this problem will never be solved because there will always be some YouTubers and pro players who have absolutely no understanding of how the game should be played in relation to FOOTBALL but will have a lot of influence on EA to make this game play like FIFA Street.

    At this rate, EA should release 2 optional patches and leave the game as it was pre-patch for the purists to enjoy and call it the Simulation Football patch and then release another for the ping pong crew to enjoy and call it something like Ping Pong Arcade patch.

    I'm sure they can do something to not force these s* patches on people.

     

  • xelos2's avatar
    xelos2
    New Rookie
    7 hours ago

    Thanks for the kind words, and I agree with you about what EA will do about this problem. One hope is that TU#7 solved these problems (I remember the arcade-style game started with TU#6). 

    Hope EA solves the problem with TU#10. Otherwise, I won’t buy the game anymore (I skipped FC24 for the first time in my life). 

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