PC BSOD on exit, every time
Running Madden 25 on a high end Windows 10 PC. Since day one, my PC crashes hard with a black screen or blue screen EVERY TIME I exit the game (and now, so does BF2042). I have spent untold hours ...
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Thank you for the reply.
During my troubleshooting, I decided not to try disabling OCing. My OC is not very extreme, and I'm only OCing the cpu and the memory (I'm running the memory well below the rated speed because it wasn't stable at the rated PC8000 speed). I configured the OC more than a year ago, and I stressed tested the heck out of that configuration. It was stable, and so I've been running it like that for tons of games without any issues. The OC is really for games like Cyberpunk with max graphics, DCS with VR, iRacing with VR, and other things that require maximum performance. It is not practical to reboot the machine, go into the bios, and reconfigure the machine just to play one title. That takes more time and effort to just letting the machine crash after playing, and it is easy to make a mistake when messing around with those settings. Also, as I mentioned, I have not had trouble with other EA titles up until now, and suddenly both of my current EA titles (one of which has worked for years) are now suffering the same issue, so I have to believe that some problem has been introduced to a kernel level component that was not there previously.
Regards
Only in the system info do I see so many differences in our almost identical machines...
OS | you: win 10 edu / me: win 11 pro
CPU | you: i9-14900KF / me: i9-14900K
GPU | you: RTX4090 / me: same
RAM | you. 48GB / me: 128 GB 🙌
smbios | you: 3.5 / me: 3.6
secure boot state | you: on / me: off
kernel dma protection | you: on / me: off
virtualization based security | you: not enabled / me: running...
if i see right then your mainboard bios is a little bit outdated.
you: 1402
stable: 1503
beta: 1602
but maybe the issue is really related to madden, i dont know...
Nice machine you have there with the 128Gb of ram. Thanks for taking the time to look through this stuff.
I did download the 1503 bios a couple of days ago when I was checking to see if I was on current versions. 1503 supposedly helps fix the Intel issue with CPU voltage damage. I agree that I should go and check that out as a next step, but both BF2042 and Madden24 ran fine on my current version before installing M24. First I have to go through and document my bios settings (tedious) because these upgrades always wipe out the settings, and then I end up having to start from scratch and spend two days reestablishing a baseline bios config as well as OCing parameters, memory timings, stress tests, etc.
A good test would be to upgrade the bios and then try and run Madden before I make any bios changes, so I'll give that a try. If it works I can slowely add back the other custom stuff until I run into a problem.
The F version of the 14900K processor just eliminates the intel graphics as you probably know.
I did have virtualization enabled awhile back because I was running Linux in a VM, but now I run Linux on a separate PC. Just the same its worth turning it back on to see if it helps.
Regarding Windows 11, initially there were a lot of claims that games were running slower on Windows 11, so I avoided it. I also understand that it is impossible or nearly impossible to install and use Windows 11 with only a local account. I have been building and using PC's since the early 1980's, and the recent efforts to force people into logging into a Microsoft company server in order to use their own PC is an unbelievable BigBrother type thing for me, but I'm sure there is a way around that if I Google a bit.
Isn't secure boot required for you to run Windows 11? Maybe I'm confusing it with Trusted Platform Computing? I'll do some research.
I know what DMA is, but I'm not sure what Kernel DMA protection is. I'll research.
Thank You for stimulating my brain a bit.
No Joy on the BIOS upgrade. I upgraded the bios, rebooted with the base default BIOS settings, went directly into Madden 25, when the main menu came up I exited, and black screen hard lockup.
Now I have to go through and reapply all of my bios settings. I think I'm going to have to ask EA for a refund. I bet I have 8 or 9 hours into troubleshooting this thing, but I've only played probably three games.
i am sorry to hear that, i thought it could help.
