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Neo_Novalis
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5 years ago

AI does not call timeout at the end of a half to kick a field goal

Product: Madden NFL 21
Platform:PC
Which console generation do you have?
What is your gamertag/PSN ID? Neo_Novalis
Date/time issue occurred since Madden 21 week 1
What type of issue do you have? Gameplay
Which mode has this happened in? Ultimate Team
Which part of the mode? Solo Challenges
Summarize your bug the AI does not call timeout on time to kick a field goal if 1) it has only one timeout left, 2) is in field goal range, but 3) there are more seconds left on the clock than would be necessary to trigger the timeout call, and 4) the normal time runoff (as soon as a player/the defense has selected a play) results in the end of the half.
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? see description
What happens when the bug occurs? the AI is not able to kick the field goal due to the time runoff
What do you expect to see? the AI trying to kick a field goal after calling timeout with 2-4 seconds left on the game clock
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the AI does not call timeout on time to kick a field goal if 1) it has only one timeout left, 2) is in field goal range, but 3) there are more seconds left on the clock than would be necessary to trigger the timeout call, and 4) the normal time runoff (as soon as a player/the defense has selected a play) results in the end of the half.

in my recent Solo Battle game, my AI opponent had 11 seconds left on the game clock (at the end of the 2nd quarter) when the previous play ended. The AI was in field goal range but selected a "normal" play. after I've chosen the defensive play, due to the normal loss of time (between plays) the half ended although the AI could have called timeout to kick the field goal. The AI trigger of calling timeout obviously does not consider the automatic time runoff. if the AI had at least 2 timeouts left, it would have called timeout (11 seconds before the half).

from my perspective, this bug is related to the no-huddle-timeout bug described here: Franchise - AI bug; CPU in no huddle lets time run out before attempting timeout - Answer HQ

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  • abc1076672376's avatar
    abc1076672376
    Seasoned Newcomer
    5 years ago

    Product: Madden NFL 21
    Platform:Sony Playstation 4
    Which console generation do you have? Sony PlayStation 4
    What is your gamertag/PSN ID?
    Date/time issue occurred 12/26/2020
    What type of issue do you have? Gameplay
    Which mode has this happened in? Franchise Mode
    Which part of the mode? Offline
    What is your Franchise League Name? N/a
    Summarize your bug Situation: user ends first half with the ball and the second half starts with the CPU having the ball.  Issue: the CPU drive starts wherever the ball was to end the first half, not with a kickoff. For example, if you kneel to run out the clock at your own 10 yard line, the computer starts at your 10 for the second half. Happens everytime the situation is available.
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? user ends first half with the ball and the second half starts with the CPU having the ball. 
    What happens when the bug occurs? Computer has the ball at the last position on the field
    What do you expect to see? A kickoff
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    Situation: user ends first half with the ball and the second half starts with the CPU having the ball. 

    Issue: the CPU drive starts wherever the ball was to end the first half, not with a kickoff. For example, if you kneel to run out the clock at your own 10 yard line, the computer starts at your 10 for the second half. Happens everytime the situation is available

  • Baenn's avatar
    Baenn
    4 years ago

    This possession and starting field location bug also occurs if you end the first half on a field goal, touchdown or turnover.  Assume that the AI got the ball first to start the game.  If you score or have a turnover with no time left on the clock, halftime occurs and then the AI gets the ball to start the second half.  If you scored, it does a kickoff with the AI receiving the ball (but it should be the AI kicking off to begin the second half).  In the event of a turnover to end the half, the AI starts the 3rd quarter with the ball at the spot of the turnover.  

    This bug existed in Madden 20 and if still present in 21.  It's a glaring fault and exceedingly simple to reproduce.  If EA is not going to fix this issue, I'll not be buying any further editions of this game.  

  • edmromero's avatar
    edmromero
    4 years ago

    Product: Madden NFL 21
    Platform:Sony Playstation 4
    Which console generation do you have? Sony PlayStation 4
    What is your gamertag/PSN ID? ed_the_sheep
    Date/time issue occurred Every time
    What type of issue do you have? Gameplay
    Which mode has this happened in? Franchise Mode
    Which part of the mode? Cloud
    What is your Franchise League Name? N/A
    Summarize your bug Whenever the first half ends on a field goal, the game operates as if it’s not halftime. If the kick is made, it goes to a kickoff to the other team, even if the receiving team received it in the first half. If the kick is missed, it’s a turnover on downs.
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play a franchise game and make sure the first half expires on a field goal
    What happens when the bug occurs? Whenever the first half ends on a field goal, the game operates as if it’s not halftime. If the kick is made, it goes to a kickoff to the other team, even if the receiving team received it in the first half. If the kick is missed, it’s a turnover on downs.
    What do you expect to see? Halftime
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    Product: Madden NFL 21
    Platform:Sony Playstation 4
    Which console generation do you have? Sony PlayStation 4
    What is your gamertag/PSN ID? ed_the_sheep
    Date/time issue occurred Every time
    What type of issue do you have? Gameplay
    Which mode has this happened in? Franchise Mode
    Which part of the mode? Offline
    What is your Franchise League Name? N/A
    Summarize your bug Whenever the first half ends on a field goal, the game operates as if it’s not halftime. If the kick is made, it goes to a kickoff to the other team, even if the receiving team received it in the first half. If the kick is missed, it’s a turnover on downs.
    How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
    Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play a franchise game and make it so that the time expires in the first half during a field goal
    What happens when the bug occurs? Whenever the first half ends on a field goal, the game operates as if it’s not halftime. If the kick is made, it goes to a kickoff to the other team, even if the receiving team received it in the first half. If the kick is missed, it’s a turnover on downs.
    What do you expect to see? It goes to halftime
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    Whenever the first half ends on a field goal, the game operates as if it’s not halftime. If the kick is made, it goes to a kickoff to the other team, even if the receiving team received it in the first half. If the kick is missed, it’s a turnover on downs.

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