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As it appears as of right now, Madden 23 on PC is likely once again current gen. Are there any plans on changing it to next gen in the coming years or is it staying current gen? Do you guys possibly move on from PC as a whole again?
Hi, @Axzhh
We'll track down this question on whether PC will receive all the features console has and update you here on this post.
- JMEllis20203 years agoSeasoned Adventurer
Stop giving us excuses and tell us the truth. It has been 3 years since the new gen started. PC players deserve the features being brought to next gen and can also handle those features if they are playing on PC. Its such a disappointment that PC is being left out once again...I'll be so glad when the exclusivity deal ends...Simulation football games on all platforms deserve better than this...let competition happen, it will make all of the games better. I think EA is scared of competition myself, I mean look at NBA. You have given up so many times on it, all because 2K actually listens to their fans and tries to innovate their franchises. Anyway...I shouldn't expect much from this company anymore...With as much money as you make EA, you should be able to put out the best video games around the world, but the money all goes to the board and the top of the food chain in the company instead of being invested in the ones actually making the games and the games themselves.
I truly hope this changes one day...its not looking good currently...- 3 years ago
Unfortunately there's not enough people making a big deal about the current situation with Madden on PC right now. We will likely get left out once again. If we're lucky maybe we will get next gen later in the year. I Wish they would be honest and just tell us the PC community isn't important to them. That's ok because the first second a different company steps up to make a quality simulation football game... I'm leaving EA and Madden in the dust.
- 3 years ago
There's no reason PC shouldn't have the same features as PS5 and Xbox Series. Period. PERIOD. A billion dollar game can't port properly to PC?
Mind you.. repackaged features that have been in the game in previous years. Yeah, maybe it's polished a bit, but it's the same thing with a different name.
Go watch Angry Joe's video. Share that everywhere. It's sad, Madden is rolling over in his grave.
- 3 years ago
They wont tell you the truth but I can already tell you why they did this, its because no one on PC will buy their product through their trash EA PLAY store or whatever its called and the vast majority of the sales will be on steam (an actual good online distributor). They have to pay Steam mor money from each sale so they think if they water t down people will go and buy $500 consoles to play their roster update and get the very few new features. What they don't understand is that most PC gamers will just pass, and some will be PISSED about it and talk about it on the internet. That unfortunately will get the game more press (there is no bad press remember).
- 3 years ago
20 pages of replies, questions and obviously upset players who keep getting "Please buy EA pro" from community managers and not a single word from Devs on the matter. Says a lot about a company with an already bad track record. And they have the nerve to put John Madden on the cover. We spend too much money for sub par games.
- 3 years ago
What do PC users have to do to get the next gen version of the game ported to PC? Any decent gaming PC is more than powerful enough to run the game. Does anyone at EA look at twitter and see how many frustrated PC users there are? Many of us have been purchasing every Madden since the 90's and we are left out. I understand that PC players are the smallest demographic, but I also know I am not the only one that is not purchasing this years version of the game just for the updated roster. If all we get is last gen with updated rosters at least provide it at a significant discount. Also, for the love of all that holy please fix franchise mode. It was better in 2004 than it has been in the last 18 years. Looking forward to a response.
Regards,
Loyal Madden Purchaser
- 3 years ago
@Ripcurlbro13 you can get the roster updates other ways just saying.
- JMEllis20203 years agoSeasoned Adventurer
@TWJanssen It shouldn't be that way though. We should be able to get the full game not some watered down game that is nowhere near as good gameplay wise. FieldSense seems cool and PCs could definitely handle that.
- 3 years ago
Just in case you need to use the same tired message again.
From June last year.
@EA_Blueberry
Hey, Madden NFL PC fans.
This is something we’re exploring for the future. We’re still early in the transition to next-gen and right now are focused on making the best, quality experience on new consoles before we look to upgrade other platforms.- JMEllis20203 years agoSeasoned Adventurer@ericth3r3d
Its really sad that this is the same message we have heard the past two years already and we will be hearing it again this year ☹️ I wish one of my favorite franchises didn't get treated this way on my preferred platform - 3 years ago
@ericth3r3d wrote:Just in case you need to use the same tired message again.
From June last year.
@EA_Blueberry
Hey, Madden NFL PC fans.
This is something we’re exploring for the future. We’re still early in the transition to next-gen and right now are focused on making the best, quality experience on new consoles before we look to upgrade other platforms.As always their actions do not match up with their words. Same could be said about how they promised they'd drastically improve Franchise. Your actions speak louder than your words, EA. And your actions say you only care about console players and MUT. For the rest of us, we just get hollow lip service. Time to start walking the walk, not just talking the talk. Until then, those of us you have forsaken are out.
- 3 years ago
So whats the excuse? Did you ever figure it out?
- 3 years ago
Thanks for the empty promise
- 3 years ago
Keep making noise, fellas.
I've said about all I can throughout the last 2 years, but definitely keep it going.
Like many of the gamers who ditched console for a better experience, I am a huge football fan.
I would put many hours into madden.
The entire last gen was garbage. I'm not interested in madden 13.5
I suspect they look at their PC sales, then determine it unimportant.
This is not the correct way to view it.
I am a huge football fan, but they have not given us a product worth buying.
If they gave us the latest version of the game, their PC sales would not look so bad, and could probably build a relationship with a passionate community.
EA has no idea what they're doing. They could be on the cutting edge of gaming tech. Instead, they are complacent with their current monopoly, and will continue to hold gaming back.
- 3 years ago
It’s crazy how they haven’t addressed anything on this form yet. Constant feedback on the negative experience we are having and nothing in response
- 3 years ago
@EA_Blueberry How have you allowed this thread to amass over 22 pages? Why do you continuously avoid answering any legitimate questions related to the PC version of this game? Did your managment team give you those orders? Why are your PAYING PC CUSTOMERS treated as second class? Now that the game has been released, we are all patiently waiting your excuse for the lack of any new features on the PC version that you refused to discuss pre-release.
- 3 years ago
How's that answer coming?
- 3 years ago
Better question. I have Madden 23 on the Series X and I don't even have the Bears new helmet nor their adjustable socks. Why buy your game and you can't even give me the features I want?
- 3 years ago
I uninstalled a while ago, this game is too terrible to enjoy and now going to make sure subscription is not renewed.
- KeyLimeSoda3 years agoRising Traveler
May be a bit late for this, but I can offer my reasonable guess.
First, off the field everything is the same between PC and next-gen console. MUT, CFM, all the modes, all the features, all the same.
The differences are on the field. Next-gen consoles have a completely different engine for on-the-field gameplay. So features implemented in the next-gen gameplay engine were not ported down to the PC/PS4/XboxOne generation engine.
So why not bring the next-gen engine to the PC? Next-gen engine takes a hard dependency on a feature on both next-gen consoles where the SSD can send data directly to the video RAM, bypassing the CPU. This is a major feature for the new consoles and the reason why there are no loading times on games designed *only* for next-gen. This feature is available on PC, but it's really new and it requires a few things to work well on PC: you need an SSD (preferably an NVME at least PCIE4), you need at least a 10-series GeForce, and you need an OS that supports the DirectStorage feature.
FIFA 23 demonstrates that EA has ported their next-gen engine to PC, and while that means system requirements are *way* higher for FIFA than for Madden, I think that bodes well for the idea that the next-gen gameplay engine is ready for PC and I'd firmly expect we see PC make the jump in M24.
- 3 years ago@KeyLimeSoda well that would be nice, however way to late.
- 3 years ago
I would hope so. Fact is PC left the most advanced consoles in the dirt years ago.
- 2 years ago
@KeyLimeSoda They have been making gaming PC's that exact way for the last 8 years. SSD is a requirement for gaming now and has been. So again this is not a valid excuse to not port it. Everything in your console came from PC's not the other way around. Consoles are just PC's with a fancy OS designed around a controller using it vs mouse and keyboard. If you don't realize that I can't help you.
- KeyLimeSoda2 years agoRising Traveler
You're more right in this gen than in previous generations, but still not exactly correct. Consoles are not nearly as exotic as they were back in the PS2/PS3 era when you had custom-built SIMD type processors that could run circles around PCs on the right kinds of workloads. Now the console CPU and GPU cores more closely resemble what you'd see in a PC. But there are still some meaningful differences.
Current consoles have a unified addressable memory space, meaning the GPU and CPU share the same set of RAM. PCs still have distinct CPU RAM and VRAM that sit across from each other across the PCIe bus, making transfer between them comparatively quite slow. Consoles also have dedicated texture decompression co-processors around their SSDs.
Consoles can also write across the pcie bus directly from SS to unified RAM. If you have a high-end PC and the latest Windows 11, you can also use the modern PCIe spec to write direct from SSD into VRAM which is similar. And in fact Nvidia includes dedicated texture decompression hardware for exactly this function.
The way they're making PC games is changing. Things like DX12 an DirectWrite offer some cool new functionality as they try to bring concepts from consoles into PCs. You see this most with newer engines like Unreal.
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