Alec Ryder (spoilers)
No matter how I try, I can't feel sorry for him or make him heroic...
and his death doesn't make sense in the first place.
Penetrating the suit isn't a death sentence or the comm lady would al...
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I don't think SAM ever states that he has a stronger connection with you than he did your father. In fact, I am pretty certain he states that the connection he has with you is the same as the one he had with Alec.
That being said, Lexi stated that removing the SAM would kill you (which we can now take as simply being severely debilitating) so based on the above, it would be possible that Alec died, not from the atmosphere (or at least not that alone) and instead died because of the SAM transfer either killing him or crippling him so much that in that environment, he couldn't survive for as long as the average person.
This is possibly why SAMs don't usually transfer until a Pathfinder is dead as it is likely dangerous to the host.
Alec's death could have been done better but to me, it is clear they just wanted him to die and do so in a way that required him to save his kid and this was the best way they could think of.
But (as at least one other person pointed out) it was such a "We just want him dead" type situation that he never matters again. We don't retrieve his body. Do a funeral or anything. It's like they didn't even try hard to make his death matter or make much sense.
People survive worse now and with SAM enhancing him, I feel like Alec could have lasted even longer than well trained people. This makes Alec surviving that situation using a buddy system quite feasible.
In fact, he has a super AI in his head that would have likely been able to devise a way for both of them to survive the situation now that I think about it.
So, to be fair, I think him dying could have been done better but I concede that I cannot think of a better death that would also allow him to sacrifice himself for his kid and/or his team. I personally would have abandoned that aspect and just settled for a more believable death.
(interfacing directly with alien tech my chosen method of him needing to transfer SAM and if killing Alec is a must, it could have done that too)
@PretzleMe wrote:
I don't think SAM ever states that he has a stronger connection with you than he did your father. In fact, I am pretty certain he states that the connection he has with you is the same as the one he had with Alec.
That being said, Lexi stated that removing the SAM would kill you (which we can now take as simply being severely debilitating) so based on the above, it would be possible that Alec died, not from the atmosphere (or at least not that alone) and instead died because of the SAM transfer either killing him or crippling him so much that in that environment, he couldn't survive for as long as the average person.
This is possibly why SAMs don't usually transfer until a Pathfinder is dead as it is likely dangerous to the host.
Alec's death could have been done better but to me, it is clear they just wanted him to die and do so in a way that required him to save his kid and this was the best way they could think of.
But (as at least one other person pointed out) it was such a "We just want him dead" type situation that he never matters again. We don't retrieve his body. Do a funeral or anything. It's like they didn't even try hard to make his death matter or make much sense.
People survive worse now and with SAM enhancing him, I feel like Alec could have lasted even longer than well trained people. This makes Alec surviving that situation using a buddy system quite feasible.
In fact, he has a super AI in his head that would have likely been able to devise a way for both of them to survive the situation now that I think about it.
So, to be fair, I think him dying could have been done better but I concede that I cannot think of a better death that would also allow him to sacrifice himself for his kid and/or his team. I personally would have abandoned that aspect and just settled for a more believable death.
(interfacing directly with alien tech my chosen method of him needing to transfer SAM and if killing Alec is a must, it could have done that too)
All good thoughts.
I don't know why, especially with the memory, they didn't use some of that last breath to make him a more sympathetic character. To say a line or two of concern, regret, or love for me or my sibling. Is almost as if they want me to be, at best, ambivalent about dad. Wanting me to pick up ma's torch is one thing - the singlemindedness of it, even while he dies, is another.
Everybody speaks so highly of dad; why make him the great Santini?
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