@sirexodus84 wrote:
You want to talk about disappointing romance options? Try having zero team members available and 1.5 NPCs to choose from: Gil and Reyes. Reyes is typically the better choice, too, since his personality is much more interesting than Gil's.... and to add insult to injury, not only do you only get a dance with Reyes (which is a clear swap from SisRyder since you stare at the ceiling while you dance), but Gil is just a fade to black. Can't even have a good conversational flow with Reyes, either, since he stays on Kadara.
DA:I did this better. ME3 did this better. Why did MEA go in reverse?
Yes I know, gay men got the worst most of the time, my sympathies. Truly and wholeheardly. And I hate that they get so much hate whenever they claim their piece of the cake. It's so laughable. No problems at all that there were and are tons of opportunities for f/f action - nobody is complaining or even asks why there has to be so much. No "feminism" aguments there, no "SJW" arguments, no stupid terms at all. All perfectly fine. And well, since straight male players always claim they are the majority and everthing should center around their wishes... so I have to assume that this is purely fanboy service. Hot girls in action. And it never was ment for the truly f/f people. Just think about it for a moment... isn't it sad? And I mean it in all honesty.
And forgive me when I center my thoughts mostly around the straight female issue - at least you can/could also profit if they would decide to make this chars bi like they did with Kaidan. Actually I think DA II wasn't bad with the "all romances are bi" decision. Everyone got what he/she wants.
About the "alien naked *" - laughable. I was: "WTF" when I got that scene at the Tempest. Two guys "playing the armor game" and well who would guess... it's the "ugly alien butt" you'll get to see in all it's beauty. Don't get me wrong, I adore Jaal, I adore him much more than Liam but it's so typical. Liam is wearing his pants. Why? Because that scene has to work for the SMs (Straight males), too and who would dare to offend them by showing an attractive male butt that isn't their own chars butt ("banging" Cora)? Sorry, I don't get it and this is the only "logical" explanation I can come up with...
As for the question about "ugly alien butts" in general, think of it just for a moment. And including all the MEs into this, we have:
Ashley I for the SM - human
Kaidan for the SF - human
Liara for the SM - blue human
Miranda for the SM - human (barbie doll)
Jack for the SM - human
Tally for the SM - alien? colored human? Who knows because you'll never get to "see" her, she's a "platonic love"
Jakob for the SF - human (a..ole. And I HATE it who BW made my Shep "physically" react to him whenever I had to let her talk to him "in private" Just thinking of it makes me want to vomid...)
Thane for the SF - alien
Garrus for the SF - alien
Ashley II for the SM - human (barbie doll - why BW, why...???)
Liam for the SF - human
Cora for the SM - human
Jaal for the SF - alien
Peebee for the SM - blue human
Vetra for the SM - alien (wow, ALIEN!!!)
Maybe it's just me but it seem that SFs have a lot "alien action" if you would count that as "action" at all... why so? And our "love interests" seems to be real "aliens" - we also get Mordins advice (funny nonetheless - I love it and I love Mordin) for "saver sex"... (!)
Back to ME:A, we have "action" with Jaal and I like it. But it also makes me think, hey, does he even has all the necessary parts needed to make my Ryder "really" happy? We'll never know... so conveniant to give SFs all these "ugly" aliens, don't you think? And don't let me start about the "stories" - a "but the prize" Jakob-as..hole who's cheating at you? Thane who we have to see dying and that's it? There are just TWO romances you could think of somehow "normal" and one of them is... alien.
And then the Liam "romance".. wow... most underwhelming "romance scenes" ever...
All in all I would call it "cheap" and "cowardly". Hey BW - we are playing your games, too. We love your games, too. We pay for your games, too. And we aren't a "minority" anymore. We are Legion. So we straight females would like to get the same attention as your straight male customers. Because we normally don't complain that much doesn't mean we like it. We want "normal" men without "heartbreaking" stupid stories attached.
We want appropriate romances with appopriate "hot cinematics", too. Butts and B*bs for girls seems perfectly fine and ok to show in games so at least give us some attractive butts if you afraid to show the "whole beauty" of a male body.
Sorry for this "wall of words" but that's bothering me for so long now...
I absolutely agree with your post!
For femShep and femRyder you almost alwys get the Aliens but hardly any human whilst the maleShep and maleRyder get all the human girls...WTF?!
I don't get it and it makes me mad. Sure Garrus is my favorite although he is an alien...but well in ME2 I get a headbutt and in ME3 I get strange scenes with him still wearing his armor in bed...I mean seriously BioWare? You could have given him at least some casual clothings if you don't want to show the alien naked.
And now they show the alien naked, but the problem is still the same.
As cute as I find the romance with Jaal I am really disappointed with the romances at all in Andromeda.
Flirting is awesome but anything further than this is just not really existent and not at all satisfying or worth the effort.
@JucieN7 wrote:
I absolutely agree with your post!
For femShep and femRyder you almost alwys get the Aliens but hardly any human whilst the maleShep and maleRyder get all the human girls...WTF?!
I don't get it and it makes me mad. Sure Garrus is my favorite although he is an alien...but well in ME2 I get a headbutt and in ME3 I get strange scenes with him still wearing his armor in bed...I mean seriously BioWare? You could have given him at least some casual clothings if you don't want to show the alien naked.
And now they show the alien naked, but the problem is still the same.As cute as I find the romance with Jaal I am really disappointed with the romances at all in Andromeda.
Flirting is awesome but anything further than this is just not really existent and not at all satisfying or worth the effort.
Garrus is a very nice romance. I love Garrus. And come on, why are you complaining? You get a sweet, deep and romantic headbutt in ME2 and it's manly to wear armor in bed, not to say "hot" - just think of the poor boys, they have to look at a genetically enhanced Barbie Doll in lingerie or get their uniform smudged all over from Jacks makeup. No thank you, that's disgusting! Almost as digusting as this single kiss (!) you have to share with Thane in his romance. Soooooo much action, almost unbearable!
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Although I hate ME3 I think BW did a great job with the tango. I love it. And I also love Jaal - I like his "personality" so I live with the fakt that - again - he's an "alien". It would have been nice to get something like that plus a more "humanoid" body. Or have an appropriate romance with our "humanoids". Liam, Reyes.
And while we at it, a bit more interactions in general, a "renegade" kiss interrupt, some free time in your luxurious but useless Pathfinder quarter, an evening in one of the many bars, or just a stroll around the marked on Aya. Much more than just some "romance" lines and that's all. Always feels so "forced". Maybe there shouldn't be any romances at all, so nobody has a reason to complain about bad romances or unfair and unbalanced treadment. Although I would miss it I could live with it. And no, I can't just pretend there are no romances or avoid them - as long as I have the opportunity to hit a "flirt" button I will... I am not that strong to restrain myself... even though I know I will be deeply disappointed in the end.
Garrus is a very nice romance. I love Garrus. And come on, why are you complaining? You get a sweet, deep and romantic headbutt in ME2 and it's manly to wear armor in bed, not to say "hot" - just think of the poor boys, they have to look at a genetically enhanced Barbie Doll in lingerie or get their uniform smudged all over from Jacks makeup. No thank you, that's disgusting! Almost as digusting as this single kiss (!) you have to share with Thane in his romance. Sooo much action, almost unbearable.
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Although I hate ME3 I think BW did a great job with the tango. I love it. And I also love Jaal - I like his "personality" so I live with the fakt that - again - he's an "alien". It would have been nice to get something like that plus a more "humanoid" body. Or have an appropriate romance with our "humanoids". Liam, Reyes.
And while we at it, a bit more interactions in general, a "renegade" kiss interrupt, some free time in your luxurious but useless Pathfinder quarter, an evening in one of the many bars, or just a stroll around the marked on Aya. Much more than just some "romance" lines and that's all. Always feels so "forced". Maybe there shouldn't be any romances at all, so nobody has a reason to complain about bad romances or unfair and unbalanced treadment. Although I would miss it I could live with it. And no, I can't just pretend there are no romances or avoid them - as long as I have the opportunity to hit a "flirt" button I will... I am not that strong to restrain myself... even though I know I will be deeply disappointed in the end.
@friffy wrote:
Garrus is a very nice romance. I love Garrus. And come on, why are you complaining? You get a sweet, deep and romantic headbutt in ME2 and it's manly to wear armor in bed, not to say "hot" - just think of the poor boys, they have to look at a genetically enhanced Barbie Doll in lingerie or get their uniform smudged all over from Jacks makeup. No thank you, that's disgusting! Almost as digusting as this single kiss (!) you have to share with Thane in his romance. Sooo much action, almost unbearable.
😉
Although I hate ME3 I think BW did a great job with the tango. I love it. And I also love Jaal - I like his "personality" so I live with the fakt that - again - he's an "alien". It would have been nice to get something like that plus a more "humanoid" body. Or have an appropriate romance with our "humanoids". Liam, Reyes.
And while we at it, a bit more interactions in general, a "renegade" kiss interrupt, some free time in your luxurious but useless Pathfinder quarter, an evening in one of the many bars, or just a stroll around the marked on Aya. Much more than just some "romance" lines and that's all. Always feels so "forced". Maybe there shouldn't be any romances at all, so nobody has a reason to complain about bad romances or unfair and unbalanced treadment. Although I would miss it I could live with it. And no, I can't just pretend there are no romances or avoid them - as long as I have the opportunity to hit a "flirt" button I will... I am not that strong to restrain myself... even though I know I will be deeply disappointed in the end.
totally agree with that. And the Garrus romance is still my favorite one. Especially because it develops over the time. And this development of friendship/romance is missing all over Andromeda.
I remember BioWare saying like "there is more spare time you can spend with your team in the Vortex or whatsover" and I mean I can't even invite my romance into my room or ask for a date to Vortex. I mean come on? whats the problem with one "free" date per romance?
