Discussion Thread - Patch notes - Update April 6
First live patch seems on point. Kudos.
Forum Discussion
@N7JediMaster wrote:
The patch notes look good (especially being able to skip autopilot sequences). There are still a few things I'm wondering about if there has been any official statement on, or at least acknowledgement.
Don't forget the 77 pages of bugs in the official bug thread here on the official forum that they are not addressing.
@onemadvagabond Additional patches will follow in the next two months. This is just the first based on community feedback. Hang in there. 🙂
@V4rdyn wrote:
@onemadvagabond Additional patches will follow in the next two months. This is just the first based on community feedback. Hang in there. 🙂
I don't mean to be well, rude, but why the heck should anyone be expected to 'hang in there'? I am curious, those who forgive the creators of games these days that are pushed out with so many bugs, why do you feel the need to do so? Do you not feel that when you are paying for the game, you are not owed a finished game in return? Do you say the same thing when your car has numerous recalls? Do you accept when a restaurant tells you we will bring this raw in the middle burger back to your when we get around to it? Your new smartphone only has some features working correctly, do you just move along and say get to it when you get to it?
@onemadvagabond wrote:
@V4rdyn wrote:
@onemadvagabond Additional patches will follow in the next two months. This is just the first based on community feedback. Hang in there. 🙂
I don't mean to be well, rude, but why the heck should anyone be expected to 'hang in there'? I am curious, those who forgive the creators of games these days that are pushed out with so many bugs, why do you feel the need to do so? Do you not feel that when you are paying for the game, you are not owed a finished game in return? Do you say the same thing when your car has numerous recalls? Do you accept when a restaurant tells you we will bring this raw in the middle burger back to your when we get around to it? Your new smartphone only has some features working correctly, do you just move along and say get to it when you get to it?
The glaring difference?
This is a game. Entertainment.
It would be the same as throwing a tantrum because a movie ended other than the way you wanted.
You see,from my point of view,the game works. I am entertained.
There was no detailed plan for how the game played out when I bought it.
If a gun had a glitch or even a major character in the game had a problem,they could completely remove it and in no way be in breech of any contract.
Sure,things could run smoother...and they will.
Anyone who pre-orders a game or buys it on release and expects no bugs is crazy. That doesn't happen. Ever.
mckrackin5324 wrote:
The glaring difference?
This is a game. Entertainment.
It would be the same as throwing a tantrum because a movie ended other than the way you wanted.
You see,from my point of view,the game works. I am entertained.
There was no detailed plan for how the game played out when I bought it.
If a gun had a glitch or even a major character in the game had a problem,they could completely remove it and in no way be in breech of any contract.
Sure,things could run smoother...and they will.
Anyone who pre-orders a game or buys it on release and expects no bugs is crazy. That doesn't happen. Ever.
It makes no difference if it is entertainment. Are you not expected to get a finished working product upon delivery? How about the people who have bugs that are so bad that they cannot kills the game? If your movie 'entertainment' you went to see stopped playing in the theater ten minutes into the movie, would you just let it go and leave? You are still buying a product in either case, entertainment or not makes no difference. If you purchase an OS like Linux or Windows and it didn't work, would you just sit there and say, oh well, it's not a car or food so whatever? I'm sure they will fix it someday.
@onemadvagabond wrote:
@V4rdyn wrote:
@onemadvagabond Additional patches will follow in the next two months. This is just the first based on community feedback. Hang in there. 🙂
I don't mean to be well, rude, but why the heck should anyone be expected to 'hang in there'? I am curious, those who forgive the creators of games these days that are pushed out with so many bugs, why do you feel the need to do so? Do you not feel that when you are paying for the game, you are not owed a finished game in return? Do you say the same thing when your car has numerous recalls? Do you accept when a restaurant tells you we will bring this raw in the middle burger back to your when we get around to it? Your new smartphone only has some features working correctly, do you just move along and say get to it when you get to it?
Its not the creators faults its the publishers like EA.
Believeit or not, the devs, artists, va's love what they do and tske pride in their work. The publishers have the final,say on what goes in, gets cut, gets finished, polished 3tc before the push. These days publishers have no patience. They want the $$$ yesterday so don't give time for a product to be finished before launch. Instead expect that done after, once micro transactions and money from merchandise is coming in
I will agree on the part that EA is mostly at fault, but there are a lot of things in this game that should have been addressed by Bioware. They have been at this game for five years now.
I don't get why people are trying to blame EA.
Look if you get an assignment deadline and then fail to have your project completed by that deadline, how is it your boss/tutor/professor's fault?
You had the time to get it done but failed to have a working cohesive product in time. That isn't EA's fault, it's Bioware's.
Now if it is parts of the game were removed to become DLC at a later time... That is EA.
Bad writing for the story plot and character interactions/romances etc that is Bioware.
Poor graphically done hair since the days of Dragon Age Origin... Bioware again.
Budget to get resources for the game... EA/Bioware.
And yes we are all suffering a buggy somewhat broken game on release, but this should not be considered normal or acceptable just because it has become a trend, otherwise there is no point in buying games on release anymore period if all we will get is a broken half made product. Maybe then dev's and producers will notice us and understand that quality is what we want.
And inb4someonesaysit Even IF all bugs are fixed in this game.... We will still have a generic plot, poor character interactions, bad romances written and wasted potential. It is basically like the infamous ME3 ending. No matter what patches and updates come, we are still stuck with the same story.
I want to see an improvement in that actual game alongside the patches. IMHO Bioware has dropped the ball since ME2, DA2/ME3/DAI were all bad for various reasons and suffered bad writing. Sometimes dialogue choices don't even make sense and for the two choices we get it feels like sometimes they basically say the same thing but just in a different approach.
I want Bioware to be great again but I feel like they are getting too used to cutting corners and releasing games that have subpar elements to it. I wanted this to rival Witcher 3, but it seems no game will in the near future.
