Discussion Thread - Patch notes - Update April 6
First live patch seems on point. Kudos.
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I felt that both male and female LI's suffered from bad writing and fell short of the amazing romance that was Tali'Zorah minus ME3 where she practically ignores you on the Normandy to casually flirt with Garrus due to their predestined romance if she isn't chosen as a LI. Which really should have been removed once she is in fact chosen to be your LI really. It was the first time i have felt jealousy in a game lol.
I think in general the writing in Andromeda seemed to miss the mark, in both the story plot and character interactions.
On the romances: it works like in the first three games: you can tell that some romances are more worked on and seem to have more impact than others. In the first games it was basically Liara, you could tell that was the romance they wanted you to choose, and in this one it's Peebee, Cora and maybe Jaal. At least it's three instead of one. The others feel like secondary options just like in the original games.
I disagree with that opinion on the romances as Tali'zorah was the best romance in my opinion and Liara just felt like a "big sis" or "close friend" type character who then was out of the relationship running in the game (ME2) that was most focused on character relationships.
I would say you can tell certain characters are just used as side options due to their looks as in graphical comparison. For example compare Cora to Suvi or Jaal to Avela.
As a straight black guy these options don't effect me but these can clearly be seen as side characters not of equal importance. We never had this issue with the old ME games, only the writing of the characters was the lacking part. Trynor didn't look graphically worse than Miranda, Tali or Liara. She was clearly a side character and new addition but it wasn't so blatant as what can be found in this game.
The romances in this game for me are just lacking in appeal as none of them really attract me with either looks or character writing.
@admcmei86 wrote:
On the romances: it works like in the first three games: you can tell that some romances are more worked on and seem to have more impact than others. In the first games it was basically Liara, you could tell that was the romance they wanted you to choose, and in this one it's Peebee, Cora and maybe Jaal. At least it's three instead of one. The others feel like secondary options just like in the original games.
Liam should not be a "side" romance. At all.
Kaidan got a great romance in Mass Effect, as did Garrus.
Andromeda promosed plenty of "banging" and only what? Three characters got sex scenes in the entire game?
In the original games they all got a sex scene. This just feels lazy and undone. Sara Ryder should have at least one decent human male option. Which should probably be Liam since he is the only one who counts towards the achievement. They give us the first decent dark male romance option who isn't a cheater like Jacob, and then slap us in the face with a terrible incomplete romance. The character overall is amazing, the romance is so poor that its barely a romance at all.
All of the romances in the original, even the side romances had better sexy scenes and build up than this game has. I know they can do so much better.
@Nykara360 wrote:
@admcmei86 wrote:
On the romances: it works like in the first three games: you can tell that some romances are more worked on and seem to have more impact than others. In the first games it was basically Liara, you could tell that was the romance they wanted you to choose, and in this one it's Peebee, Cora and maybe Jaal. At least it's three instead of one. The others feel like secondary options just like in the original games.
Liam should not be a "side" romance. At all.
Kaidan got a great romance in Mass Effect, as did Garrus.
Andromeda promosed plenty of "banging" and only what? Three characters got sex scenes in the entire game?
In the original games they all got a sex scene. This just feels lazy and undone. Sara Ryder should have at least one decent human male option. Which should probably be Liam since he is the only one who counts towards the achievement. They give us the first decent dark male romance option who isn't a cheater like Jacob, and then slap us in the face with a terrible incomplete romance. The character overall is amazing, the romance is so poor that its barely a romance at all.
All of the romances in the original, even the side romances had better sexy scenes and build up than this game has. I know they can do so much better.
First of all BW should patch all the bugs that makes the game unplayable for a lot of pleople (thankfully I haven't run into one - yet). And what I would love to see is an improved Menu. It drives me nuts the way it is now. Click here, search there, menu, submenues - never had something so confusing in a BW game before. I even have to check the completed quests when I want to get rid of the quest marks and my "Click X to mark as read" not working anymore. Please consider an improve.
After that - the romances. Well, sometimes I get the impression (and don't get me wrong, I love BW games) there is this thinking: Ok, let's make the straight male happy first. Give them a good romance and well, also enough f/f options because a lot of them love to see that, too. And this way the f/f faction is happy as well. Don't forget the m/m - oh wait, we did... but we'll correct that, promise!
But wait, wasn't there another faction? Hmm, who could that be?....... Ah yes, the straight females... but hey, most of the time we don't hear that much complains so they seem to be happy with whatever we give them. A Kaidan that get's magically bi in ME 3, an adorable Thane who, well... dies (and has no "real" sex" scene ). A Jacob who is an - sorry - a... ole. A great Garrus - thankfully even without a real "sex" scene. But well, the girls seems to be happy with it, they seem to be happy even without some "nice straight sex" or a well made romance at all. Four options, two of them human but either not straight or a looser. Two aliens (and no, I have nothing against alien romance but well, one of it dies and/or is in the "no sexy scene" cathegory). And now in ME:A? Wow... just one, Jaal. And who would have guessed? Again a alien... And somehow I got the impression you have problems to show naked men with all the "necessary assets". Why so? It seems not to bother you when it comes to the girls.
Please BW - don't pretent we do not exist. And we aren't a "negligible" faction that needs no attention. We want our piece of "cake", too. Even if there is just Liam - at least we want a adequate romance like for example the straight male Cora romance. Even if we have to wait two months for it.
Thank you.
- For some reason my posts keep getting removed so i will keep it very simple. The hair has not graphically improved since Dragon Age origins, it has only gained more shine and not texture. And even if all the patches fix the bugs, we are still left with a generic plot and poorly written romances and character interactions. stop it Bioware please. You have dropped the ball since ME2 and don't seem to be picking it back up at all. Stop cutting corners and giving subpar elements in your games!
