Liam..
The poor guy, so many seem to not like him. So what I want to know is who out there does like him and what you like about him.. Haters can stay away please! Just Liam positive here. One thread in wh...
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@rugster wrote:
@Nykara360 wrote:The poor guy, so many seem to not like him. So what I want to know is who out there does like him and what you like about him..
Haters can stay away please! Just Liam positive here. One thread in which he doesn't end up bashed in.. you can give us that.
The first thing I thought was sweet, was Liam sleeping on the floor in SAM node right at the begining when he barely even knew Ryder. A sign of someone who cares about others no matter what.
I like him, he's just useless.
People hate the almost childish way that he is written, which I like. The "I shot him in the face" etc.. I think that's hilarious and trading insults with jaal. And his backstory.
But as an Aid in Combat.. he just dies all the time.
I do get people not liking some of the writing, although to be honest there is usually at least one or two lines from every character (original trilogy and MEA) that just makes me.. cringe. Thats also true of conversations with people IRL too though, we don't have writers who can go back and change our words for us because we said something dumb, we gotta own it! 😃😃 Maybe its that kind of realism that I like, not everyone enjoys that in stories of any kind. The same as not everyone enjoying comedies or dramas or whatever 🙂. Everyone I know has a flaw that.. bugs me.. that I look past in favor of friendship / relstionships or whatever. Some perfer to escape those flaws in stories though where as I prefer them to exist. Like.. I like Jaal he is sweet but he almost seems too perfect, so not really to my taste for an IG romance.
That and he has a body that makes you scream when he's naked..
I think alot of the hate generated in games is pseudo hate, it's pass along hate.. some video wiz says he hates this aspect of this character and everyone jumps on that bandwagon and claims the same thing.
Yeh when Liam says his memorable line, it made me burst out laughing and surely that's the aim of that line. So how can anyone hate it? Doesn't make sence. Unless they're hating it, because someone else hates it, just because.
There's actually alot of the stories that make me tearful or laugh, some really strikes a nerve, other's like alot of what Draak talks about, with parenthood etc I can draw from and identify with.
@rugster wrote:Yeh when Liam says his memorable line, it made me burst out laughing and surely that's the aim of that line. So how can anyone hate it? Doesn't make sence.
??What memorable line??? I honestly don't remember any real good laughing lines from him. Drack, Vetra and even Cora I could fairly easily relate too and understand their character.....Liam, sorry can't. The thing about Liam that really irks me is he was in crisis response, that is the one place that cool heads and solid rational decisions HAVE to be made 100% of the time or people die. Yet time and time again, Liam doesn't live up to his backstory, he is emotional in decision making, he isn't to my mind rational in those decisions and not very cool or collected under stress. To me his backstory doesn't fit him AT ALL, and that annoys the dog poo out of me when it comes to characters. The other thing that really irks me about his character is after every bad decision, Ryder basically goes....UHH, ok, whatever...you can't really tell him off, you can't correct him for going AROUND YOU...not so much around higher ups, but AROUND YOU!!! He is pulling BS behind YOUR back and then you have to deal with the fallout or * from it, and you can't do a dang thing about it to him.
Things I like about him.....
1) He doesn't shoot me in the back during a mission......
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When I find more I will post them.....😎
I think what a lot fail to realize is the fact that the Pathfinder team arent actually under the Pathfinders orders per say. Its not an alliance military team its a civilian one. They are expected to assist the Pathfinder when asked but outside of that, they have their own asigned tasks to perform without having to run and ask permission to do it. They are supposed to just do it and then request back-up from the other team members when its needed.
Its a big difference to an alliance military ship and crew like the Normandy was. Even a big difference to the SR2 when all crew where specifically told to follow Shepards orders.
Each member of the Pathfinding team had a set job already assigned to them to just do when not required by the Pathfinder his/herself and there is the difference. Sara didn't have to contact her Dad to ask permission to scout once they landed on the planet she was just expected to do her job.
Believe it or not, Liam was just doing his job, forging relationships with species and between colonies and used his own judgment on how best to achieve that. He also wasn't wrong, his instincts about those people were correct. The pirates timing was just bad luck, one didn't have anything to do with the other he just thought it was possible, so went to his team for backup feeling it was needed at that point in time. In doing so he further cemented those alliances as well.
@Nykara360 wrote:Believe it or not, Liam was just doing his job, forging relationships with species and between colonies and used his own judgment on how best to achieve that. He also wasn't wrong, his instincts about those people were correct. The pirates timing was just bad luck, one didn't have anything to do with the other he just thought it was possible, so went to his team for backup feeling it was needed at that point in time. In doing so he further cemented those alliances as well.
I didn't know that this was Liam's job. I got the impression he was supposed to handle security, while Cora was XO, Vetra was supplies, etc. Did it say anywhere that Liam was the diplomat?
I do like Liam. He's a friendly, gung-ho guy. I even appreciate his initiative and found his loyalty mission to be one of the most entertaining bits of the game.
That being said, I don't feel like he fits with the Nexus leadership's Initiative. In many ways I think that Liam would be a better fit doing his thing at Prodromos or Kedara, possibly Elaaden. Certainly I wouldn't be too upset if things went that way, and I suspect that he and most of the crew would feel the same way. If Jaal gets upset I'm sure Peebee would be more than happy to spend some time with him and cheer him up.
