Hi all, I bought and love the Pathfinder weapons added in the deluxe edition. However I am level 48 (I believe) and I realized that there seems to be no "advanced variant" of the Pathfinder weapons that scales beyond tier 5 available to build. Is this intended or a mistake? My tier 5 weapon will be 2 tiers behind in a few levels, and I want to take the Pathfinder Pioneer through the entire game but it is becoming increasingly less capable. I have scrolled through my list of weapons several times, but I don't see it.

Those "Pathfinder" weapons are sure good at giving you a headstart early in the game... but they are not the best weapons in the game. There are more interesting ones that can be unlocked. The very best ones are those you craft yourself, especially if you give them certain augmentations during the crafting process. What I did:As soon as the game allows you to unlock Cryo pods (... depends on your AVP score and the viability of the planets you build outposts on...), please unlock this one:Military Pods > Reconnaissance The result of this will be that every planet's surface you visit will be covered with 'hidden' containers. Well, not really 'hidden' in any way because their location will now clearly be visible on the map. All you need to do is get into the Nomad, drive to those locations and then fetch the loot. Some of those containers are near or even inside Remnant sites (there might be a few hostile bots), or on high cliffs (you need to use your jetpack to get there...) or sometimes in caves. But totally worth it. I got tons and tons and tons of good guns, good armor and rare materials from these containers! Then, as soon as you can either research or buy this augment mod, please do it: "Vintage Heat-Sink".That augment totally eliminates the need for ammo crates - you get infinite ammo. Yes, your guns might overheat here and there, but you can stay in cover while they cool down and regenerate their ammo, no need ever to run out of cover to find an ammo crate.Next, research this Angara sniper gun: "Naladen". When you craft it - give it the "Vintage Heat-Sink" augment! Why this gun? It does massive explosive splash damage to anything you fire at. It's like calling in an artillery strike. And with the "vintage heat-sink" you will never run out of ammo, you just have to wait a few seconds for the gun to cool down again. Combine this with consumables like "Incendiary ammo" or "Disruptor ammo" and skills such as "Concussive Shot", "Incinerate" or "Throw" and you'll be setting off explosions and combo detonations all over the map! Even large space monsters or large groups of enemies don't stand much of a chance.Then spend some "Andromeda Initiative" research points and research this assault rifle: "Revenant".Why this gun? It deals a lot of damage, it has a high fire rate and has a very large clip capacity. It was the very best gun to have in "ME2" and was still very good in "ME3".Apply the same trick as above: When you craft this gun, give it a "vintage heat-sink" augmentation. Taddaaaa. No more ammo problems with this gun. Add a scope (... you will run into so many containers everywhere, I am sure you will sooner or later find a suitable scope! ...), add a large clip (... can be obtained from containers, traders, dead enemies ...) and / or a barrel for extra damage. With the right skills and profiles (e.g. Soldier, Infiltrator, etc.) you can pretty much eliminate recoil and stability issues.Now, armed with these beasts of guns ... do I miss not being able to further upgrade my "Pathfinder" guns? Nope, I in fact don't :DI know, I know ... this is not a "solution". But maybe an acceptable "workaround" to help you beat the game? 🙂

You don't need to research the Pioneer deluxe edition weapons, they just appear at the level required to unlock the tier+1, like the Avenger or Omni-Blade. The reason I think tier 6 does not exist is because I have access to the Avenger VI, but there is no Pathfinder Pioneer VI (or any other Pioneer weapon tier VI for that matter). If this is not a bug the whole deluxe weaponry will be nonviable as the tiers increase and they remain "mid-game" weapons.

Damn I'm not enjoying the other weapons much so I've only been using the pathfinder guns this is going to kill my later stuff I was hoping it was just a bug but if not that's a bummer

I am in the same boat, I loved the guns that came in the deluxe edition and I had to beat the game using other weapons because the Tiers above V did not exist. Can someone from EA let me know if this is intentional, or if I am missing something? I paid real money for these weapons because in the past the paid DLC weapons added a lot to the game, and these are also great. I really wanted to beat the game using them, but the damage they did was not competitive by end game (I was in tier VII).

Good news is you can develop up to Tier V with no research invested, Pioneer weapons are available for free from the start for crafting. Bad news is if you end up liking them they start to fall off by tier 7, doing significantly less damage because you can no longer make tiers VI and up to X. Basically they just don't scale into the late game.

Mass Effect Andromeda - Deluxe Edition Weapons beyond tier 5

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pyrion
9 years ago
@djab7 wrote:

‎Please help!!!
My pioneer weapons are still at tier 1 and I don't see how to craft/upgrade them anywhere. They are nowhere to be in find in either research or development. Any thoughts?

They are, but the system for ranking them is bugged such that all of the Pioneer weapons will show up in descending order at the very bottom of the list.
Anonymous
9 years ago
@EA_David any thing you or anyone at ea want to say about this?
PixlPixie
9 years ago
this is the first time ive ever read a thread that someone from ea didnt come in and give an explaination about... wtf, right??
arthurh3535
9 years ago
@djab7 wrote:

My pioneer weapons are still at tier 1 and I don't see how to craft/upgrade them anywhere. They are nowhere to be in find in either research or development. Any thoughts?

They are slotted weirdly into the development blueprints all the way down in the Tier 1s. All the Pathfinder weapons are, actually. I haven't got to Tier 6 yet (give it a day or so for me to finish Kadara and Eladaan and I'll check to make sure if there is no 6-10.
Arsenic_Touch
9 years ago
Just so people know, there is a bug preventing the blueprints from showing up for crafting if you added the deluxe upgrade to your account to a save that has already started.

It was a design choice to stop upgrading the pathfinder weapons at tier V, however they noticed how popular they were and plan on changing this at a later date. No other information has been released about this.
Bradyater
Rising Novice
8 years ago
So since EA/Bioware isn't going to fix this are there any mods that do?

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